Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
What a gent!
What a gent!
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
In the same way a 3.5 rover makes 160bhp
Very low tuned engines as stock, remember we are talking about very old motors with very old head designs here
Modern engines are hugely more efficient in all senses of the word
This is why the old motors are so fabulous sounding in comparison to the very smooth sounding modern v8s.
The 6.3 engine in my car was built for torque and relaibility and not for power - with a performer RPM cam, matching intake and 800 carb it will pull 450 bhp and the same torque(450) but it will be much higher up the rev range - and not suitable for a 4x4.
It is far from standard - a 5.7 chevy with iron heads makes 250 bhp at most - but 330 lbs/ft torque.
I have edelbrock performer Ali big-valve heads, matching inlet and carb, a rollin' thunder camshaft and, forged stroker crank and rods and keith black race pistons - and more besides.
This is what she sounds like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12EXemK4uM
My engine has over 300 lbs at just above idle - dyno sheets show 400 at 2000 rpm and slow rise to 450 at 3800 and virtually no tail-off.
I did build the bottom end to cope with up to 600 bhp though - if the mood takes takes me.
With a Victor intake, mad nascar cam and two 750 double-pumpers this will be about right - I may have to have some slightly bigger-valve heads done with smaller combustion chambers, but 3 grand will get me there
As for a stock 5.8 mustang pulling 662 bhp.
1 - that is a supercharged Shelby
2 - it is undriveable
3 - ford are notoriously 'over-enthusiastic' shall we say when it comes to quoting bhp figures
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i still prefer the jap v8's..built to race as standard..but the noise they make is i admit pooh compared to yanky v8's...having said that that...Sally sounds like a 80's f1 engine..no real rumble..but at 7000rpm..what a sound!!
quite looking forward to what BRB sounds like supercharger and nos an all..(rv8)
quite looking forward to what BRB sounds like supercharger and nos an all..(rv8)
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Lynall
I have responded generally above - but I thought maybe i should explain the reasoning for me keeping my headline BHP figures relatively low.
You must have a 'horses for courses' mentality when deciding on an engine upgrade for a car.
To shift a 2-tonne square block from rest and through the air is difficult - power will not do it - torque will.
Take the Grey TVR engined 90 cabrio we built - we had a 305 bhp 4.3 litre big valve TVR race engine in to go in it - but it had no torque below 3500 rpm and revved to 6850 rpm.
Great in a 1000 kg TVR but not so clever in a 90
So when we rebuilt it we softened the cam down to a kent 218 - from the wild TVR 885 - this meant it made 30bhp less, but 40lbs more torque and MUCH lower down the rev range - now it only revs to 6000.
It has a manual gearobox and drives like a dream - 60 comes up in 7 seconds - but it is also nice to drive because it has enough torque at low revs.
For my car - with an auto box - this is even more important.
So you if build a landrover motor with torque in mind the power takes care of itself.
Correct from factory stock
there are a lot of them on the road , and are very driveableCorrect from factory stock
The supercharged shelby mustang was 50bhp short of claimed bhp when Top Gear had it dynoed
351 Cleveland supposed to make 350 bhp - 275 max is the norm.
Only decent ford V8 engine is 351 windsor - torque monster
Shelby mustangs arenot from the factory - they go somewhere to have the leaf springs removed and upgrades done
Ford not only people to tell power porkies though - one day i will divulge how the TVR Griff 500 got 340 bhp - LOL
Shelbys are undriveable - in anything other than a straight line.
A well- driven EVO or 911 will leave it for dead on a b-road
Having said that - I do like them
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Land Rover Defender Concept 100 2012 photo 74083 pictures at high resolution
hers a idea of what i wish to do with a certain 2 door mr griffman..
abd re winsor351..av one of them.(high cr 4 bolt version).its waiting for a suitable car...
hers a idea of what i wish to do with a certain 2 door mr griffman..
abd re winsor351..av one of them.(high cr 4 bolt version).its waiting for a suitable car...
marccleave
Active Member
Thanks Vic.
Shane
Sorry mate it is Stornaway Grey
Got my Orkneys and my Hebrides
Islands mixed up.
I actually think they are the same colour
- there was no overlap
A bit lighter than Bonatti
Hi Shane
looking for ward to some pics when the beast is done.
Either of those greys will look grand I am sure.
Although my favourite is westminster grey - from the P38 westminster edition - you don't see it very often.
Did you ever buy the 4.6 top-hat engine from Turners?
I pushed freida hard to give you a trade discount - she only does one level - 10%
We buy loads of stuff from them - thay are very nice people though and top notch service and advice.
Good luck with the rest of the build
