richardjeaton

richardjeaton

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Hi all

First of all hello from a (very) fresh 1989 Landrover 90 2.5TD owner. I have literally just collected my Land Rover a couple of hours ago!!!

Unfortunately on the 40 mile drive back I had a bit of a problem half way into the journey home :( Basically as I set off from some traffic lights the car was very jerky in 1st gear. As I went down the gears towards the next set of lights the engine seemed to be very jerky and almost stalled. Again it was awful as I set off again - shortly after this I could smell what seemed like burning clutch/brakes so I pulled over to see if there was anything obvious. Luck wasn't on my side as the bonnet pull then broke so I was unable to have a look. I decided to risk the remainder of the journey carefully and discovered that the problem seemed better if I just coasted to a stop rather than going down through the gears. It even seemed ok for a while when setting off in 1st and 2nd gear. Just before I got home though it started jerking badly again (when I say jerking I mean it feels like the engine is trying to escape and as though the transmission in engaging and disengaging, v bad!!). Anyway, the main thing is that I have now got it in my garage (with about half an inch roof clearance from the door handle!!!) so can take a proper look.

Has anybody got any suggestions on what to look for? The only 2 things I can think of are engine mounts (as it seems to jerk while slowing down through the gears even of you go into neutral) or the transmission (please nooooooooo!). Any help would be really appreciated!!!

Thanks and sorry for such a negative 1st post.

Richard
 
Can you discribe the feeling more?

Does it feel like its misfiring under load, or just bouncing on the overrun?

Could be a slipping clutch, does it slip if you load it hard?

The warm smell may well just be a landy thing, they do that sometimes. :)
 
Sounds stupid but when Mine wedged itself on and wouldn't release even tho the leaver was down it was a nightmare to drive, but I had no choice other to get it off the site onto the road before I could look at it.

Other than that is there fluid in the gearbox,

Does the engine run smoothly on tick over?

Jerking only when in gear,

Does it jerk when in Neutral,

is there alot of take up of slack in the transmission when you engage the clutch mainshaft wear?

Has it had a recent clutch change or gearbox messed with? Is the bellhousing up tight against the flywheel housing? if not clutch could be misaligned and trying to re engage with every turn of the engine.


Jai
 
Thanks for the quick responses - as you can imagine, I'm really wondering whether I have done the right thing or not buying this 90! I won't say what my missus thinks at the moment!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

It is defintely more than a misfire and the engine seems to run as sweet as a sweet thing. It was just when the juddering/jerkiness started that it felt like it was running too slow and about to stall (but never did). The jerkiness is pretty severe and doesn't just feel like a badly running engine - it is all at the front though. I'm almost 100% sure it isn't the clutch as it never slips even when I put it under load in high gears.

Any more help appreciated - I've a feeling the Land Rover experience is going to be a steep learning curve if my first few hours are anything to go by!

Thanks

Richard
 
IF the hand brake actuator is full of hite could be stuck on and would give a really distinctive smell of burning clutch plate, would seem better at higher speeds tho
 
When a diesel it stalling it sounds really rough horrible my old na was terrible still reckon its the handbrake can easily check chock your wheels make sure the hand brake leaver is down, leave the motor in neutral and go underneath to the transmission drum and try and spin it with your hands one way then the other if its free you can rule that out.
 
When I say spin i mean move slightly in clock wise and then anti if it wont budge then you need to get some spanners and we can talk you through it. should feel all the slack in the transmission being taken up one way and then the other. Jai
 
jai_landrover said:
Sounds stupid but when Mine wedged itself on and wouldn't release even tho the leaver was down it was a nightmare to drive, but I had no choice other to get it off the site onto the road before I could look at it.

Other than that is there fluid in the gearbox,

Does the engine run smoothly on tick over?

Jerking only when in gear,

Does it jerk when in Neutral,

is there alot of take up of slack in the transmission when you engage the clutch mainshaft wear?

Has it had a recent clutch change or gearbox messed with? Is the bellhousing up tight against the flywheel housing? if not clutch could be misaligned and trying to re engage with every turn of the engine.


Jai
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Nope I'm pretty sure it isn't the handbrake - we did think that maybe the brakes were binding or something when I'd stopped but were able to push the car no problem - as I set off though the juddering was still awful. As the car hasn't been used for a couple of months I expected this to be the problem too.

The engine runs lovely on tickover and throughout the rev range in other gears. Some of the time it was fine in 1st and 2nd too but then it seemed to revert back to being jerky. Another thing to note is that it was fine for the first 15 minutes so maybe an issue with cold/heat?

I'll be able to tell more once I can get the bonnet open tomorrow - I presume I'll be able to open the bonnet by removing the front grille and actuating the bonnet pull mechanism from the front?

Thanks for all the help so far.

Richard
 
If you find nothing drain your oil look for bits of metal, If its new to you its probably worth spending a day draining all the oils giving it a good service, checking wheel bearings, ball joints and all linkages etc.
 
for opening the bonnet without the cable, just remove the grill and flick the catch, pretty simple, may suggest then reattaching the cable just to make it easier for next time
 
Could be hand brake related but he says he could push the landy ok so maybe a shoe has come adrift or broken up. You haven't got the diff lock on and wound up the transmission have you? Could be if it seems to be coming from the front.
 
jai_landrover said:
When a diesel it stalling it sounds really rough horrible my old na was terrible still reckon its the handbrake can easily check chock your wheels make sure the hand brake leaver is down, leave the motor in neutral and go underneath to the transmission drum and try and spin it with your hands one way then the other if its free you can rule that out.
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Many thanks to everyone for all your help and suggestions - the good news is that I'm pretty sure I've found the problem! :)

It looks like it is the handbrake is the issue that a few of you suggested.

I tested it by putting the handbrake on and couldn't move the transmission drum (as expected). I then released the handbrake but still couldn't move the drum (not expected!). If I pushed the handbrake actuator lever back by hand then I could spin the drum.

From all this I guess that it is all the crud on it that is causing the problem and it just needs cleaning up, freeing off and greasing. The car hadn't been used for 3 months which I guess hasn't helped.

Thanks again for everyone's help :)

Richard
 
i had same problem had my shadrack for a week, when i bought it had been stood for 9 months. when i got it home same thing happend, and yes i did brown stain my undies and go through a few tissues thinkin it was gearbox, i slacked off handbrake cable drove round few miles, tightened it back up now its sorted.
 
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