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Hybrid309

Member

• Jul 11, 2014

• #1

hi everyone i hope someone could help me

i have a 1978 "109" and have a serious issue with the steering, it seems pretty stiff also there is loads of play in the steering wheel and wonder when driving. i have had a quick look and there is some play on the shaft in the steering relay, so the questions i have are

1: how easy is it to replace the steering relay, i have a galvanised chassis so i dont think i should struggle with siezed bolts etc

2: when i fit the new relay do i need to fill with oil if so is there a special grade of oil i need to use, also what quantity?

3: is there and brands you guys recommend for a new relay as i understand that the britpart units are a pile of ****e also where i could purchase from

4: could i rebuild the original relay even if the shaft/bearing is worn?

sorry for all the questions
if anyone could help that would be great
thanks

 

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honolulujoe

Well-Known Member

• Jul 11, 2014

• #2

the chap in this thread had a good way of getting the relay out, its on page 4

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f6/time-overhaul-old-girl-257501-4.html

 

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Hybrid309

Member

• Jul 11, 2014

• #3

ok thank you mate

 

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honolulujoe

Well-Known Member

• Jul 11, 2014

• #4

sorry I can't answer your other questions though, some useful relay tips in page 20 of this thread too.

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f6/1976-series-3-rebuild-202564-20.html

 

oxides

Well-Known Member

• Jul 11, 2014

• #5

If the shaft isn't corroded you might get away with new bushes and a spring. Not too hard to rebuild but follow the manual carefully - you don't necessarily need the special tool. The spring can do some real damage if it lets go. Fill with EP90, one of the top plate bolts is drilled through as a filler hole.

 

samc88

Drivels spiritual representative

• Jul 12, 2014

• #6

Replacement pattern shafts are seemingly made of cheese so beware.

Later shafts are multi piece with the seal lands being able to be replaced. Earlier ones are single piece. If yours is single piece like mine was, you can get the ends skimmed on a lathe to accept a new distance piece, turning the shaft into a serviceable item

 

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Hybrid309

Member

• Jul 13, 2014

• #7

Ok there is a lot of play in the shaft that's the only reason I was going to replace but do Ny of you guys thing the original is still salvageable ? If so I will rebuild

 

Blackburn

Well-Known Member

• Jul 14, 2014

• #8

The shaft sits in tapered bushes if shaft not seriously corroded replacing bushes ,seals and thrust washers will fix it .

 

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nickjaxe

Well-Known Member

• Jul 14, 2014

• #9

When I fitted a new one a few years ago it transformed my steering...I bought a Bearmac unit.

My mate is building up a S3 on a new galv he tried to fit the same type of unit and it wont fitted the hole in the chassis....seems the original maybe narrower...so be warned.

Nick.

 

dominicbeesley

Well-Known Member

• Jul 14, 2014

• #10

I'd have a go at stripping and rebuilding the unit. I redid mine recently, it should be easy enough to rebuild the innards without removing it if you find it is rusted into the chassis.

I followed the instructions here: How to rebuild a steering relay. except my lock clamps didn't look nearly as neat! I could probably have just stripped it down cleaned it and put it back together but I replaced the whale bushes.

 

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Hybrid309

Member

• Jul 14, 2014

• #11

Ok that's great does anybody no where's the best place to buy a rebuild kit from

 

samc88

Drivels spiritual representative

• Jul 14, 2014

• #12

Craddocks sell all the bits

Oil Seal for Steering Relay - 213340 (2 of these)


Distance Piece for Steering Relay. 230184 (2 of these)

Split Bush for Steering Relay. 537877 (2 bushes needed)

Bolt for Steering Relay Retainer 544337 (8 of these)

Joint Washer for Steering Relay. 90624436 (need 2 of these)

Thrust Washer for Steering Relay 230760 ( need 2 of these)

Price came up to around £25