john snoo said:

Hi John. Your turn is it?! You've been "watching" me, but I am the stalker? . Since you chose to engage yourself here, I will respond as you surely expected me to:

"bordered on stalking in my opinion" - You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, even though it's categorically wrong. I would rather you had called me a name, at least that's just an expression of your feelings (and I wouldn't need to respond much to that), as opposed to an accusation of me bordering on being a serious criminal! (You chose the words, not me). There is a very clear legal definition for things like "stalking", and this fails the test quite dismally. Besides, a victim is needed, one who feels stalked/intimidated/harassed etc. Since I have done the deal with Ronseal, and since he gave me his phone number (AFTER being "stalked" in your opinion), I don't think he feels stalked. On the contrary he seems quite happy to just get the wheels out of the way. Trying to get hold of someone offering something for sale is hardly "stalking". Let's be sensible now.

In the event of vehicle problems I really won't be isolated, but thanks for your 'concern'. I have plenty of people I can ask, LZ is great but it's not the only game in town. Its probably the best though. There are thousands of threads on here for most failures, so even if the club sent me to Coventry, I think I would get by. Your feigned consideration for my being in a difficult predicament in the future is noted. I say feigned, because it's obviously not real On that note, since you piped up (and this wouldn't have been mentioned at all if you hadn't brought it up), those wheels you mentioned:

1. Your photo (still shown on your listing) states "11m tread". Curious when they arrived, I checked. Not far off, but not quite 11mm. Maybe you found a good spot to take the reading. But I looked at your pictures on the classifieds again, and your own photo of the measuring tool clearly shows 10.5 in your own picture (at best). I didn't complain. I am not that silly. And I genuinely didn't care, until now when you saw fit to act like a moral authority and accuse me of behaving like a stalker. Maybe you were just doing the 'herd thing'. I don't know, but we are all big boys and when we speak, we can expect to be responded to in kind.



2. Before buying the wheels I asked you if you were sure they would fit (as you listed them as suitable for D2) and I asked if there was "anything else" which i needed, or needed to consider. I made it very clear I had little clue about this stuff. I have no shame in admitting I am a dumb *uck compared to the skilled and experienced folks in here. Of course you could have said "no idea, check for yourself", but you didn't. You said the only thing needed was spigot rings. I bought some. Then I found i needed a new set of wheel nuts too. I asked you about this and you said you didn't know that. I believed you, and I still do. I made no complaint about it.





3. I also found that the spare wouldn't go on the tailgate, not without major changes to the spare carrier, or purchase of a new custom one with more clearance. This is something you did actually know before the purchase but didn't mention, as your reply to my text showed when I messaged you after struggling to get it to fit. Your response did miff me a little bit as I had expressly asked you about anything else I needed to know before purchase.


Even despite that, did I complain? No. And am I complaining now? Nope. It's my responsibility entirely, and I would like to add that I don't think any of this was dishonesty on your part. I am sure you're an honest guy and no doubt decent too, and the wheels really are superb so no sour grapes here even though I now have to sell them on. That's the price of ignorance, my ignorance. But for you to chime in with the pretence of 'caring' about difficulties I may have in the future, after failing to mention the spare carrier when I asked what other issues I might need to know about, I really can't take your 'compassion' on face value.

Hopefully this also shows one of the reasons I am admittedly anal and as others have suggested (rightly) that I seem to 'over think" decisions with the Disco. The above experience is a perfect example of why I 'over-think', namely to avoid costly mistakes like I made on the wheels. If I had asked more detailed questions (of other people too) about whether your wheels really would 'fit straight on' without other issues except spigot rings, I would have found out about needing new D3 wheel nuts, spare carrier adjustments/replacement, and then the issue of 2-3" circumference difference and the sound advice from others on here that this can cause issues especially with EGT, gearing etc. That's why I ask a lot (and listen too, hence why I am not using the wheels now), oh and THANK people a lot for the generous replies and advice. If I don't get any more help, so be it. But I won't bow down to bully culture or ridiculous accusations of "stalking" just in order to preserve a forum account, however useful it may be. I would rather sruggle through a Haynes manual than struggle through life with no self-respect.

I am going to unsub from this now as it's going nowhere, the popcorn has been eaten, and I have bought the wheels from Ronseal who didn't appear to feel stalked at all. He was just busy, as I suspected, but if they were sold then I needed to know quickly as I had a lot of pressure from another seller who was pushing me for a decision urgently and with what's going on I need a working vehicle for critical reasons, and I am not sure how much longer couriers will be allowed to run in this current insanity, sorry, I mean 'crisis'. The thread is redundant now anyway, except for an argument which isn't best placed here and isn't what the thread was created for. Nuff said.

Oh look what the cat dragged in...



What are you sorry for?
You will "leave this arrogant fool to you all..." - but you posted, didn't you?
Ah I get it, that good old chestnut the hit n run. When rationalism fails, we always have that low ball tactic don't we!
Banned for what? Name calling? Like "arrogant fool" you mean?
Passive Aggression defined: "Passive-aggressive behavior is characterized by a pattern of passive hostility and an avoidance of direct communication. " If the cap fits.




So soon after Tilly's hit and run, did he call the cops?

BB: I apologise if I broke any rules. I could've sworn (see what I did there) that I've seen plenty of swearing across many threads, but maybe they were AG threads or just allowed in a different context. I am not sure about the "and the attitude" part, if that translates to "if i dont like you" then I can't really help much with that. I think my responses, except for the one with swearing which I apologise for, were rational and in self-defence. But I accept you may see it differently and it's your place not mine so what will be will be. I can't allow accusations to go un answered, not in my nature, but I can avoid swearing and I will in future if my account stays open.

Thanks again to all those who have helped me, in case the above counts as a banworthy "attitude". I am grateful, whether anyone cares to know that or not, and I think this is a fantastic forum with or without this 'arrogant fool'.

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