j_rov

Active Member

• Jan 16, 2023

• #1

So I managed to snap a head bolt off on my 3.9 and therefore need to drill it out. That's never gone well for me before, so likely will need to helicoil it. Anyone know what size I'm looking at please?

Thanks

 

kermit_rr

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• Jan 16, 2023

• #2

Blimey! How did you do that!? Hope the block survives.
Have you thought about using an extractor bit?

 

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j_rov

Active Member

• Jan 16, 2023

• #3

I undid all 16 bolts the same, they were tight as expected. This one snapped easily, flush with the block...

I'll try an extractor, but again, never had any success with those.

Just want to be prepared in case it goes pear shaped.

 

kermit_rr

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• Jan 16, 2023

• #4

I just worry with helicoil, especially on a head bolt, you need to be very sure you drill perfectly straight.. don't know the bolt size but you should see it listed somewhere i would have thought

 

kermit_rr

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• Jan 16, 2023

• #5

make your own mind up, if you think these are right... never done the head on a 3.9 so not sure
https://www.lrdirect.com/err2943-cylinder-head-bolt-4-6v8-short

 

j_rov

Active Member

• Jan 16, 2023

• #6

I think I'll get them measured as needs to be bang on.

Fortunately I have access to a very accurate milling machine and an operator who works in hundreds of a degree.

 

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Ratae

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• Jan 16, 2023

• #7

Lrcat says the head bolts are all 7/16UNC.
Lrcat

 

kermit_rr

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• Jan 16, 2023

• #8

Ratae said:

Lrcat says the head bolts are all 7/16UNC.
Lrcat

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Agrees with my link

 

gstuart

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• Jan 16, 2023

• #9

kermit_rr said:

I just worry with helicoil, especially on a head bolt, you need to be very sure you drill perfectly straight.. don't know the bolt size but you should see it listed somewhere i would have thought

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hi mate

funny enough watched this the other week regarding snapped bolts etc ,plus some guy using a hinge centre drill , wished to share the link in case u found it interesting

 

gstuart

D3 Grandad

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• Jan 16, 2023

• #10

 

freelance

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• Jan 17, 2023

• #11

j_rov said:

I think I'll get them measured as needs to be bang on.

Fortunately I have access to a very accurate milling machine and an operator who works in hundreds of a degree.

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So ask him to remove the broken stud !

 

Mark Piercy

Well fumbled member....

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• Jan 18, 2023

• #12

Try welding a washer onto the thread end, give it a tap with a hammer afterwards then weld a nut onto the washer via the inside of the nut. Tap that with a hammer and it may undo.

 

Grrrrrr

Technician, Bodgit & Scarper Ltd

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• Jan 18, 2023

• #13

I feel your pain. It'll need a good drill bit as they'll be hard as hell. Never had to do that yet but good luck!

 

pwood999

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• Jan 18, 2023

• #14

Left handed drill or mill bit ? That way if it snatches at the bolt, it might unscrew itself ?

 

Grrrrrr

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• Jan 18, 2023

• #15

pwood999 said:

Left handed drill or mill bit ? That way if it snatches at the bolt, it might unscrew itself ?

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If water has got down that thread enough to snap the head-bolt I really cannot see it shifting.

I'd be tempted to cut a groove up each side of an old head bolt and run it in and out of the old holes once they're all out to clean out the threads. A bit of moly CV grease on the new bolts to help them slide in and out before refitting the head might help too. Still, got to get that last bugger out first!

 

pwood999

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• Jan 19, 2023

• #16

Once you get the broken bit out, consider investing in the ARP Stud kit. Makes re-torqueing the head much easier.