as we all know you like a good larf here it is
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f7/question-37965.html?highlight=cod+liver
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f7/question-37965.html?highlight=cod+liver
tom bola
New Member
Hehe. It appears customary to reel in some newbie **** monthly, or on a month by month basis on here. Better be careful......
First, kerosene is a very poor LUBRICANT, and if you use it neat your fuel injection pump will be wrecked in no time. So, ADD SOME OIL ! You would need to add about 1 part in 40 of good straight SAE 30 oil or better, but a straight cheap SAE 30 will be fine.
Ignition timing happening too early isn't an issue - Diesels only start the ignition process when the injection pump strikes, and the type of fuel has little or no effect on that.
TD5 owners should avoid kerosene entirely because the return fuel is so hot it will practically explode if a leak develops.
All other diesels will run just dandy on a kero / oil mix.
Basically, take ANY clean oil, and dilute it with kerosene until the viscosity (thickness) looks to be about the same as pump diesel.
Then chuck it in your tank, and drive away.
We (know someone who) used a 40 gallon drum of oil that had lubricated a huge machine for a year , and who lobbed in about a third more of kerosene, made more than 55 gallons of fuel, and discovered it was like rocket fuel!
WOW! Watch that old N/A 90 GO!
The Disco TD5 used most of it when towing a big caravan. ZZZZOOOOOOMMM!
CharlesY
Ignition timing happening too early isn't an issue - Diesels only start the ignition process when the injection pump strikes, and the type of fuel has little or no effect on that.
TD5 owners should avoid kerosene entirely because the return fuel is so hot it will practically explode if a leak develops.
All other diesels will run just dandy on a kero / oil mix.
Basically, take ANY clean oil, and dilute it with kerosene until the viscosity (thickness) looks to be about the same as pump diesel.
Then chuck it in your tank, and drive away.
We (know someone who) used a 40 gallon drum of oil that had lubricated a huge machine for a year , and who lobbed in about a third more of kerosene, made more than 55 gallons of fuel, and discovered it was like rocket fuel!
WOW! Watch that old N/A 90 GO!
The Disco TD5 used most of it when towing a big caravan. ZZZZOOOOOOMMM!
CharlesY
muddythelandy
New Member
It was one of the landy mags about a month ago - said the americans are using neat aviation fuel in their TD5s in EYE-RAQ and that TD5s are designed to run on the stuff. I was surprised, but as a TD5 owner and proud owner of a huge tank of kerosene I was interested.
I'm leaving the TD5 on diesel and converting the 2.5TD to run on Straight Veg Oil.
Been looking at all the veg oil sites and come up with a plan...
Now for a new question on rustproofing..
I'm leaving the TD5 on diesel and converting the 2.5TD to run on Straight Veg Oil.
Been looking at all the veg oil sites and come up with a plan...
Now for a new question on rustproofing..
Of course, these original story in a magazine may be true, or not.
It only mentions "aviation fuel", but doesn't say WHICH aviation fuel.
Aviation fuels range from high octane gasolines, through Jet A and Jet A1, to stuff more like what we think of as diesel fuel. In WW2 the Germans designed their Me262 jet engines specially to run on diesel fuel oil. Plenty power but a bugger to start.
Rule out all the gasoline / petrol fuels for use in diesels.
Almost all diesels will run just fine on all the rest, BUT you might need to add lubricating oil to some kerosene based fuels so the injection pump isn't stuffed. This need for lube also applies to the TD5 series of engines because the injectors MUST be lubed or will be wrecked.
CharlesY
It only mentions "aviation fuel", but doesn't say WHICH aviation fuel.
Aviation fuels range from high octane gasolines, through Jet A and Jet A1, to stuff more like what we think of as diesel fuel. In WW2 the Germans designed their Me262 jet engines specially to run on diesel fuel oil. Plenty power but a bugger to start.
Rule out all the gasoline / petrol fuels for use in diesels.
Almost all diesels will run just fine on all the rest, BUT you might need to add lubricating oil to some kerosene based fuels so the injection pump isn't stuffed. This need for lube also applies to the TD5 series of engines because the injectors MUST be lubed or will be wrecked.
CharlesY
beautiful looking aircraft - them.
think army me laddo, they even had rolls royce injuns(later made under license by BL) that would run on just any old oil you had lying around. incase you was stuck somewhere and could only find kero or whatever. so if the army of today ids using the td5's they it wint surprise me if it was designed to run on orange juice.
RAZ8550TDI
New Member
presuming they are willing to pay the fuel tax on that slob of course 
Veg oil not cheap round here even at Cosco, dearer than derv in shops
Never seen derv in shops
julianf
Well-Known Member
The cost of landrovers now... Morals aside, would you want to risk loosing the truck for a bit of cheaper fuel?
Instead of kerosene blends, maybe just take the time to learn how to run an engine off vegetable oil?
On the animal fats topic -
I used to pick up beef tallow, and make it into methyl esters. The tallow had a melting point of around 60c ish, and the resultant methyl esters were about 13c. So it was ok for summer time use, and seemed to give better mpg than other oils.
I don't get it any more. I think I got sick of melting it out of the collection drums. It was some years back.
I'll pick up about 400ltrs of veg oil tomorrow. I'll pay about 12 pence per litre, and the conversion runs at about 25 pence per liter, so I'm well under 40ppl all in.
Which is cheaper than kerosene, and I don't run the risk of getting my vehicle seized.
But, you know, each to their own...
Instead of kerosene blends, maybe just take the time to learn how to run an engine off vegetable oil?
On the animal fats topic -
I used to pick up beef tallow, and make it into methyl esters. The tallow had a melting point of around 60c ish, and the resultant methyl esters were about 13c. So it was ok for summer time use, and seemed to give better mpg than other oils.
I don't get it any more. I think I got sick of melting it out of the collection drums. It was some years back.
I'll pick up about 400ltrs of veg oil tomorrow. I'll pay about 12 pence per litre, and the conversion runs at about 25 pence per liter, so I'm well under 40ppl all in.
Which is cheaper than kerosene, and I don't run the risk of getting my vehicle seized.
But, you know, each to their own...
