Clanforbes

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This is just my opinion and as such I exercise my rights of free speech to say, shame on the makers of Hawkeye. I bought a Hawkeye Diagnostics Tool for my Defender. As most of you will know, this tool will do other Land Rover models. If you buy the “extra” licence to open it up, but at the moment, this is of no importance to me as I only use it for my own Defender. Which is a 2000 110 TD5 .

Since I’ve been having a few difficulties with it cutting out on me, I wanted a diagnostics tool and I decided on the Hawkeye. Not a problem, this is in no way a criticism of this particular tool, I find it does everything I want it to, so far.

But the basic Hawkeye only reads and writes to the ECM of my Defender, which means that if I want to look into the alarm/immobiliser part of the electronics, I needed to buy an adaptor, known as “The Green Adaptor BA5076.” The cheapest I could find this adaptor on the net was £38.50 excl vat p&p etc. By the time I paid the VAT and P&P it cost a total of £51.70.

This is my main criticism – the price, and here is why.

The adaptor is a neat little black plastic box (admittedly ergonomically shaped) which has a 16 pin OBDII male connector at one end and the matching 16 pin OBDII female connector at the other. It is designed to be plugged onto your existing DTC socket on your vehicle and you can then plug your Hawkeye lead into this adaptor.

If you open the adaptor up and have a look inside, you will find that what it does is, it disconnects pin 7 (the ECM connection) of your original DTC socket and swaps pin 8 (the alarm ECU connection) over to pin 7 on the output end for the Hawkeye. There is one other wire it swaps over, but this is not relevant to my defender as there is no connection to this pin on the original (I am assuming this is for a different Land Rover model, or possibly later Defenders.)

So, for the total cost of £50.70 you get a three inch piece of wire which goes from one hole to another, yes it comes in a neat little box, yes it does have another four short pieces of wire (which are already on your DTC anyway,) and yes, you do get the two plastic ends, but, personally, I’d much rather have known that I could have simply soldered three wires to a switch and did the job just as well, however, I was unable to find the wiring diagram needed to do this until I’d bought a BA5076 adaptor. Good God, using a little savvy, I, or anyone else, can do this totally for free by simply temporarily removing one of the wires from the DTC socket (the pink one on pin 7) and then moving one of the others (the Orange/Green one on pin 8) and putting it into the hole for pin 7 – this would then allow the Hawkeye to read/write to the alarm ECU. I have to state, for the record, that I have provided this information for educational purposes only and if you act upon any of the information I have provided then you do so entirely at your own risk.

Anyone who would like the pin outs to make up their own adaptor can PM me and I will send you details, but at this point I must state, for the record, that if you make up your own “adaptor” in any form using the info I provide then you do so entirely at your own risk.

It will take me a couple of days to get enough computer time (I work long hours and sleep the rest) to draw up an easy to read connection diagram with all the pin connections between the DTC socket on my defender, the “Green Adaptor - BA5076” and the 15-pin D-Sub Hawkeye connector lead.

Ron.
 
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Nice one Ron. Most of these so called essential "adapters" are normally pretty simple once you open them up. Thats why they take steps (such as hot glueing the internals to make it a bastard job to get into them without destroying the things. :mad:

Some of the TD5 turbo boost boxes that fool the ECU into thinking the turbo is not boosting as high as it really is are no more than voltage adjusters that work on the output from the boost pressure sensor. Mega bucks to buy but contain a few pennies worth of electronic components. Some are better than others but most of the cheaper ones are still a rip off. :eek:

Just for info when I borrowed Ratty's Nanocom it could access my ECU, Alarm/Immobiliser, and ABS Wabco unit with no adapters needed. I had hours of fun playing with the various settings. :D

Why not make your own adapter up and sell the "green" adapter on eBay to recover some of your outlay? ;)

This is just my opinion and as such I exercise my rights of free speech to say, shame on the makers of Hawkeye. I bought a Hawkeye Diagnostics Tool for my Defender. As most of you will know, this tool will do other Land Rover models. If you buy the “extra” licence to open it up, but at the moment, this is of no importance to me as I only use it for my own Defender. Which is a 2000 110 TD5 .

Since I’ve been having a few difficulties with it cutting out on me, I wanted a diagnostics tool and I decided on the Hawkeye. Not a problem, this is in no way a criticism of this particular tool, I find it does everything I want it to, so far.

But the basic Hawkeye only reads and writes to the ECM of my Defender, which means that if I want to look into the alarm/immobiliser part of the electronics, I needed to buy an adaptor, known as “The Green Adaptor BA5076.” The cheapest I could find this adaptor on the net was £38.50 excl vat p&p etc. By the time I paid the VAT and P&P it cost a total of £51.70.

This is my main criticism – the price, and here is why.

The adaptor is a neat little black plastic box (admittedly ergonomically shaped) which has a 16 pin OBDII male connector at one end and the matching 16 pin OBDII female connector at the other. It is designed to be plugged onto your existing DTC socket on your vehicle and you can then plug your Hawkeye lead into this adaptor.

If you open the adaptor up and have a look inside, you will find that what it does is, it disconnects pin 7 (the ECM connection) of your original DTC socket and swaps pin 8 (the alarm ECU connection) over to pin 7 on the output end for the Hawkeye. There is one other wire it swaps over, but this is not relevant to my defender as there is no connection to this pin on the original (I am assuming this is for a different Land Rover model, or possibly later Defenders.)

So, for the total cost of £50.70 you get a three inch piece of wire which goes from one hole to another, yes it comes in a neat little box, yes it does have another four short pieces of wire (which are already on your DTC anyway,) and yes, you do get the two plastic ends, but, personally, I’d much rather have known that I could have simply soldered three wires to a switch and did the job just as well, however, I was unable to find the wiring diagram needed to do this until I’d bought a BA5076 adaptor. Good God, using a little savvy, I, or anyone else, can do this totally for free by simply temporarily removing one of the wires from the DTC socket (the pink one on pin 7) and then moving one of the others (the Orange/Green one on pin 8) and putting it into the hole for pin 7 – this would then allow the Hawkeye to read/write to the alarm ECU. I have to state, for the record, that I have provided this information for educational purposes only and if you act upon any of the information I have provided then you do so entirely at your own risk.

Anyone who would like the pin outs to make up their own adaptor can PM me and I will send you details, but at this point I must state, for the record, that if you make up your own “adaptor” in any form using the info I provide then you do so entirely at your own risk.

It will take me a couple of days to get enough computer time (I work long hours and sleep the rest) to draw up an easy to read connection diagram with all the pin connections between the DTC socket on my defender, the “Green Adaptor - BA5076” and the 15-pin D-Sub Hawkeye connector lead.

Ron.
 
It is soooo easy to open the DTC connector on your defender and swap the little connector pins around that it beggars belief. I'm happy enough to keep the adaptor now that I have paid for one, but I did consider making my own up with a short length of wire and a male and female OBDII connector on each end - the rest of the various adaptors are probably much the same, and if anyone wants to send me a loan of their's so I could check it out - as long as it's the screw together ones - I'd be very happy to do this for the forum and Landy owners in general.* I think I'll post this up on my webpages too once I get the pinouts organised.

Ron.
 
Hi i have purchased a hawkeye and green adapter do you now how to program a fob and how to activate the alarm system?
 
I know this is a very old post, but do you have the pin outs for green or grey adapters so I can make my own. Purchased a hawkeye total but had 3 orders for dongles cancelled so far for unavailability.
 
Ask for refund on the tool if you still can and get a Foxwell NT520 cos it does everything hawkeye can, even more without any dongles and it's much cheaper. They mixed up the connections on hawkeye to ask money for various dongles which is not fair play at all.
 
Hi Thanks for reply, I know that they have connected the other modules to different pins and all the dongles do is "rewire" the data links. Still going through Rave to find them, but thought i'd try asking in case anyone has done work already. I have noticed my SRS light doesn't illuminate when ign is switched on so trying to work that out. Very confusing at moment as its a Jap import and have found that alarm and imobiliser are disabled and have some parts missing.
 
Hey, did anyone ever come up with a diagram or explanation of the rest of the wires in the 5076 dongle? I can't buy one anywhere so I need to solder one. I have a 98 Disco 1, so I need the rest of the info.
 
Hey, did anyone ever come up with a diagram or explanation of the rest of the wires in the 5076 dongle? I can't buy one anywhere so I need to solder one. I have a 98 Disco 1, so I need the rest of the info.
If you still need this information send me a private message.
 
Hi,
I have been looking for a Hawkeye green dongle BA5076 for about two years since I bought the TD5 110.
Since I've owned her, the courtesy lights have never operated with the doors.
I have been told that they have been disabled within the vehicle program.
I did acquire a pinout diagram from another member on here. I went and made a patch lead based on the drawing but it never worked and I gave up.
Have revisited the subject and found this thread from a few years back.
If anyone does have a pinout drawing that works to make a green BA5076 dongle can you please send me a copy?
I eagerly await your response.
Thanks
Regards
Gareth
 
Hi, IMO it's clear enough in the first post, all you have to do is to insert a two way switch or improvise somehow as to connect the orange/green wire from pin 8 of the vehicle's OBD port instead of the pink from pin 7 when you want to access the 10AS system then switch back as it was for the engine and ABS.
 

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