Paul D · Feb 2, 2013

Amazing what bargains Paddocks have in the shop, way better than on-line!

I just use me shovel to make a small, angled trench, length of wood it as a brace and a long spike into the ground with a shackle. Worked twice with the hi-lift, but never tried with an electric winch yet. I aim to try it out as soon as .. on private land. I want to know it'll work with me winch!!

I ain't at a challenge event so speed isn't an issue, but reliability is ..

goonarmy · Feb 2, 2013

Paul D said:
Amazing what bargains Paddocks have in the shop, way better than on-line!

I just use me shovel to make a small, angled trench, length of wood it as a brace and a long spike into the ground with a shackle. Worked twice with the hi-lift, but never tried with an electric winch yet. I aim to try it out as soon as .. on private land. I want to know it'll work with me winch!!

I ain't at a challenge event so speed isn't an issue, but reliability is ..

Worse case senario just bury the spare and use that as an anchor.

Paul D · Feb 2, 2013

goonarmy said:
Worse case senario just bury the spare and use that as an anchor.

Been toying with ditching the spare .. I've never needed it! Had a tyre pulled off a rim, had a few punctures and '**** happening' but never actually used the spare! With tyre weld, a tin of gas, a puncture repair kit and an inflator I can recover the situation pretty easily anyway!

And I have good recovery cover if I can just get to a road ..

ratty · Feb 2, 2013

Paul D said:
Been toying with ditching the spare .. I've never needed it! Had a tyre pulled off a rim, had a few punctures and '**** happening' but never actually used the spare! With tyre weld, a tin of gas, a puncture repair kit and an inflator I can recover the situation pretty easily anyway!

And I have good recovery cover if I can just get to a road ..

Breakdown cover won't cover you for recovery if your vehicle is meant to have a spare but doesn't have one.

Paul D · Feb 2, 2013

ratty said:
Breakdown cover won't cover you for recovery if your vehicle is meant to have a spare but doesn't have one.

Ah, didn't think of that ..

300tdistu · Feb 2, 2013

ratty said:
Breakdown cover won't cover you for recovery if your vehicle is meant to have a spare but doesn't have one.

What is you have one of them stickers in the window that says "part my fall off" will that help as you give warning

GINGE · Feb 2, 2013

i has a good fold up ground anchor i got of the Ebay.

I am going out to me landy in a minute so ill photo it for yam.

warrior · Feb 2, 2013

300tdistu, do you think you could make your pack away and still work? as it looks smart.

300tdistu · Feb 3, 2013

warrior said:
300tdistu, do you think you could make your pack away and still work? as it looks smart.

Im looking into that, new design coming soon

Can't do any welding for the next week as im moving into a bigger unit and getting all me electric changed over and tested

wiltshire landyman · Feb 3, 2013

Paul D said:
Amazing what bargains Paddocks have in the shop, way better than on-line!

I just use me shovel to make a small, angled trench, length of wood it as a brace and a long spike into the ground with a shackle. Worked twice with the hi-lift, but never tried with an electric winch yet. I aim to try it out as soon as .. on private land. I want to know it'll work with me winch!!

I ain't at a challenge event so speed isn't an issue, but reliability is ..

I think u under estimate the pull of a leccy winch. Even with the proper gnd anchor they can pull it clean thru the mud even when dug in properly..

What exactly are u using the wood for? Not any form of recovery I hope,?

Paul D · Feb 3, 2013

wiltshire landyman said:
I think u under estimate the pull of a leccy winch. Even with the proper gnd anchor they can pull it clean thru the mud even when dug in properly..

What exactly are u using the wood for? Not any form of recovery I hope,?

Yup ..

I'll try and draw a pic .. or take a pic .. it'll explain better ..

Paul D · Feb 3, 2013

Based on this .. from a US Army manual thing somewhere ..

I carry a couple of wooden blocks, 6"x3" and about 2 1/2' long, and a 2 1/2' long steel Marguee guy post.

I do it differently in that I put one piece of wood in front, above and one behind lower down with the spike between them so the spike pulls against the top block and rotation is held by the rear ..

Drawing is crap, but it works, or has so far, in deeply rutted mud with the blocks in between ruts, and in a boggy area .. pulled a small island of reeds but held! The hole is really a thin slit trench, the tighter the blocks fit the better, with a thin slit in the ground for the rope to attach lower down the spike, which is at an angle.

johnlad · Feb 3, 2013

Paul D said:
Based on this .. from a US Army manual thing somewhere ..

I carry a couple of wooden blocks, 6"x3" and about 2 1/2' long, and a 2 1/2' long steel Marguee guy post.

I do it differently in that I put one piece of wood in front, above and one behind lower down with the spike between them so the spike pulls against the top block and rotation is held by the rear ..

Drawing is crap, but it works, or has so far, in deeply rutted mud with the blocks in between ruts, and in a boggy area .. pulled a small island of reeds but held! The hole is really a thin slit trench, the tighter the blocks fit the better, with a thin slit in the ground for the rope to attach lower down the spike, which is at an angle.

its a similar method as used to transverse down an ice gully when there's nothing to tie the rope on,in simple terms, basically dig a trench parallel with cliff top, loop rope to stick, bury stick, throw rope down, climb down rope, pull rope from stick.

Paul D · Feb 3, 2013

Yeah. Rarely use it, as I said twice in about 7 years or so, but it's a good standby recovery system for when I'm out alone!

Mostly I can dig meself out, or re-arrange the ground as a mate once said, to get away again ... I try not to be too stupid when alone ..

GINGE · Feb 3, 2013

As promised, me folding anchor:

prior1188 · Feb 3, 2013

That looks pretty decent.. And nice and shiny too!!

Where did you get it?

GINGE · Feb 3, 2013

prior1188 said:
That looks pretty decent.. And nice and shiny too!! Where did you get it?

ebay. bargain. Was originally imported by a guy, he never used it though.

wiltshire landyman · Feb 3, 2013

why all the wasted metal above the arm tho? surely the more that can dig in the gnd the better it seems to have more metal above gnd than will be below gnd..

GINGE · Feb 3, 2013

wiltshire landyman said:
why all the wasted metal above the arm tho? surely the more that can dig in the gnd the better it seems to have more metal above gnd than will be below gnd..

It has finger holes in the top of the blade. I presume for pulling it out when yam is dun.

Pikey · Feb 3, 2013

johnlad said:
its a similar method as used to transverse down an ice gully when there's nothing to tie the rope on,in simple terms, basically dig a trench parallel with cliff top, loop rope to stick, bury stick, throw rope down, climb down rope, pull rope from stick.

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