George1994 · Mar 4, 2015

Hi all, basically I have done a bit of research and decided I want to teach myself how to weld

Is this a good welder to start off on MIG WELDER 130 AMP PRICE INCLUDES VAT GASLESS MIG WELDER | eBay ?

What else would I need to start welding other than some scrap metal to practice on? Thanks!

biggeeeee · Mar 4, 2015

No, get one that uses gas

and

Do some research

UK Based Land Rover Forum, Land Rover Gallery and Land Rover Links. - Search Results for welder

top drive · Mar 4, 2015

thats a piece of ****.

Ian46 · Mar 4, 2015

What they said. Get your self a welder that uses gas and no smaller than 130amp.

George1994 · Mar 4, 2015

How do these ones look-the first one is a 135amp set, and the second one I have actually seen at a landrover garage so it must be good-I have done some research and everyone says it just takes practice, which is why I wanted to buy a reasonable set (hopefully not too expensive) and start practicing

Wolf Mig140 Gas No Gas Gasless Combination Turbo Smooth DC Mig Welder 135amp | eBay

Sealey Professional Mightymig 150 150AMP Welding Gas - No Gas Mig Welder 230v | eBay

greyhair · Mar 4, 2015

Dont get gasless they are messy,

DiscoPol · Mar 4, 2015

It's like a man's hot glue gun.

George1994 · Mar 4, 2015

I thought these two had the option of using gas?

George1994 · Mar 4, 2015

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lv-MWQ5V_...00/1009_stcp_08_z+tig_welding_steel_101+7.jpg

Was this why you said go for a higher ampage mig welder

?

elliot0850 · Mar 4, 2015

The Sealey one looks good. Will weld the chassis with ease but if you'r doing a lot of welding I would get a big bottle of Gass and a reg to fit. The little bottles are a rip off.
U will need a auto mask and a pair of welding gloves

tottot · Mar 4, 2015

Look up Mig welding forum,lot's of good info there.

Landyfox · Mar 4, 2015

I swear by my little Clark 135TE. Pretty inexpensive and is more than capable of dealing with most things on the landy. It's just a shame that it's owner is not quite up to the job. :lol:

the_wolf · Mar 4, 2015

Don't buy anything made by 'Wolf'. It's cheap Chinese crap that's been rebranded.

tottot · Mar 4, 2015

Whatever welder you choose get one with a "Euro torch" that uses consumables [nozzle shrouds and wire feed tips] available at welding supplies every where.

Grimmer · Mar 5, 2015

DiscoPol said:
It's like a man's hot glue gun.

Pervert

:lol:

cowasaki · Mar 5, 2015

This is a decent welder that will be good as a beginner and also do more later: https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/151te-turbo-mig-welder I have the model above that requires a 25a plug but I run it through a 13-25a adapter. It's ok so long as I don't run it at full power in which case I have to plug it in in the garage to it's dedicated socket.

Chesc · Mar 5, 2015

DiscoPol said:
It's like a man's hot glue gun.

Yes :clap2:

arc · Mar 5, 2015

Landyfox said:
I swear by my little Clark 135TE.....It's just a shame that it's owner is not quite up to the job. :lol:

I had a 130EN and that is what I thought too. Till I got a better welder. I now use a top end Lincoln and it is just sooo forgiving. Complete novices can make excellent simple welds within minutes.

Cheap machines just don't have the power capacity, nor powerful enough drive motors, nor drive wheel clamping mechs nor power controls etc.

Pikey · Mar 5, 2015

I have a cheap and nasty gas/no gas migm from Screwfix. 150Amp but minimum amperage is 50Amps so it blows holes "A LOT" but on thicker stuff it's great I'm sure a more expensive one would be better. But I'm not doing it for a living So I'll put up with the one I've got.

Barbados · Mar 6, 2015

Just used my new Millermatic 211 on 220V since I got it, in fact brought it from Miami on the airplane as cargo.

I always advise to buy good quality stuff if you can afford it and intend to use it repetitively, they hold their value and of course supposed to perform well.

Can't get Argo Shield in this stupid place so using flux core and hate it, can't beat a nice clean weld shielded with Argo Sheild. Just made some heavy duty brackets for my HAM radio table, I must say that I am very impressed with the welder.

I will try it with CO2 and solid wire.

Good luck and keep practicing, MIG welding is relatively easy.

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