Ok see what you find but if flex plate had parted i would still expect something to catch somewhere. May well be that oil pump has gone AWOL and broken drive fingers off torque converter. Let us know what you find.
Ok see what you find but if flex plate had parted i would still expect something to catch somewhere. May well be that oil pump has gone AWOL and broken drive fingers off torque converter. Let us know what you find.
Sump plug is there to capture metallic particles. A fine grey dust is fine, actual identifiable shiny filings are not good.
Took a photo of it. I didn't think it looked bad.
Those spikes are actually made of tiny tiny particles all sticking together. No actual "splinters"
The grey dust type material then.
RatCav
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Ok .. braved the weather today. Got the gearbox off. Not too bad a job if you excuse getting the props off. Shone a torch up onto the flex plate and it looks fine
I did notice flakes of metal on the end and teeth of the gearbox input shaft though. Noticeable flakes almost 1mm square. The oil that came out of the gearbox was clear of this debris. I am thinking torque converter again now. Looking into the end of the gearbox I cannot see anything untoward.
Next question. How do you remove the TC from the flywheel. I turned the engine until I could get a socket on one of the 10 (not sure how many) 13mm bolts and started undoing it. I then noticed that these bolts didn't seem to hold anything obvious. I was going through the hole on the passenger side. Do the 4 off bolts for the flex plate show through the drivers side hole in the sump. Please don't tell me I have to drop the sump to get to them.
I did notice flakes of metal on the end and teeth of the gearbox input shaft though. Noticeable flakes almost 1mm square. The oil that came out of the gearbox was clear of this debris. I am thinking torque converter again now. Looking into the end of the gearbox I cannot see anything untoward.
Next question. How do you remove the TC from the flywheel. I turned the engine until I could get a socket on one of the 10 (not sure how many) 13mm bolts and started undoing it. I then noticed that these bolts didn't seem to hold anything obvious. I was going through the hole on the passenger side. Do the 4 off bolts for the flex plate show through the drivers side hole in the sump. Please don't tell me I have to drop the sump to get to them.
jamesmartin
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flex plates can loose drive but still appear good, till you remove them ,tc will have 4 bolts removed from engine side ,the 10 bolts hold ring gear on
RatCav
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Plot thickens
Firstly apologies for the delay. Bad weather, stray kittens, many trips to the vets etc etc. Long story short I managed to get the box and TC off finally. Initial discovery is the flex plate is fine. No cracks or splits or anything. In fact it is pretty unmarked. Thoughts are now heading towards Torque Converter or Oil pump. I have no idea how to test either, but I do have a good auto transmission shop near me. Two other things I have discovered. It is a second hand box. Someone has written 4.6 V8 in yellow scrappy pen on it. Also another bell housing bolt is missing (top drivers side). The TC output shaft has been chewed slightly. Anyways photo's:
Firstly apologies for the delay. Bad weather, stray kittens, many trips to the vets etc etc. Long story short I managed to get the box and TC off finally. Initial discovery is the flex plate is fine. No cracks or splits or anything. In fact it is pretty unmarked. Thoughts are now heading towards Torque Converter or Oil pump. I have no idea how to test either, but I do have a good auto transmission shop near me. Two other things I have discovered. It is a second hand box. Someone has written 4.6 V8 in yellow scrappy pen on it. Also another bell housing bolt is missing (top drivers side). The TC output shaft has been chewed slightly. Anyways photo's:
RatCav
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Verdict is in.
The box is second hand. Which ever muppet installed it should be hung, drawn, and quartered. They didn't put the TC onto the gearbox properly and then slide the assembly onto the engine. They must of bolted the TC to the flex plate and then jammed on the gearbox drawing it in with the bolts. This has critically damaged the oil pump and its housing. Net result is everything has got chewed up sending bits of metal everywhere. TC has broken down inside and the poor oil and contamination has knackered the clutch plates of the box as well. Basically new TC and gearbox. Not impressed with whichever cockwomble is responsible.
Now to source replacements.
The box is second hand. Which ever muppet installed it should be hung, drawn, and quartered. They didn't put the TC onto the gearbox properly and then slide the assembly onto the engine. They must of bolted the TC to the flex plate and then jammed on the gearbox drawing it in with the bolts. This has critically damaged the oil pump and its housing. Net result is everything has got chewed up sending bits of metal everywhere. TC has broken down inside and the poor oil and contamination has knackered the clutch plates of the box as well. Basically new TC and gearbox. Not impressed with whichever cockwomble is responsible.
Now to source replacements.
Unfortunately there are a lot of cockwombles about.
jamesmartin
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its the measuring thats important too
tomcat59alan
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tomcat59alan
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I don't know what's happening when I type but I didn't mean to call you "you p"You p
You probably don't have enough posts.
tomcat59alan
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I didn't think I did , this new site has a mind of its own. Must be femaleYou possibly started
typing in the wrong place.
