Hicap phill
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Iv seen the rover 220 engine into a 88 using the standard LR 4 speed series box.
Right off to you tube....
Found it. Attached next post
Right off to you tube....
Found it. Attached next post
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Hicap phill
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Webley1991
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Is that the Rover K Series engine that is well known for blowing head gaskets?
Hicap phill
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In the years I knew the motor there was no trouble in reliability.
Wildefalcon
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Inject the 2286.
cappers
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Unsure about the rules re tax exemption and modifications, but when I swapped my 2.5 petrol for a 3.5 in an early 90 there was no hassle with the licensing. Going from 4 cyl to 8 cyl didn't seem to matter plus the fact that LR made 90V8s, so it wasn't a substantial change.
A V8 into a Series could be classed as a substantial change as they never made Series V8s, though the Stage 1 V8s were 'Series'...not that it matters as I have seen loads of tax exempt Series with RV8s and others.
I'd keep it simple and go for a LR swap. 'Modern engins' have too many electronics to deal with.
Webley1991
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From what I read, if the engine was an original manufacturer option such as a Rover V8 into a 90 it is not seen as a substantial change.
My thought about the 1990s era EFI engine was that they came before the electronics got too overly complicated. I believe that Mitsubishi and Toyota were building 4x4s with EFI petrol engines from the mid 1980s.
I said in the first post that I have no intention of actually doing it, it was only a thought I posted.
cappers
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True, mine's 14CUX hotwire, very simple and does the trick.
I meant engines from more modern cars e.g 2000+.
I've never heard of a Mitsu or Toyota conversion in a Landy but I found this
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-ro...ne-into-my-110-defender-need-some-help.78374/
Didn't read to check about efi.
Good luck
Hicap phill
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Dug out some old photos from goodwood.
Always good to see other motors with bigger engines in
Always good to see other motors with bigger engines in
Webley1991
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A bloke I used to work with told me he used to help out a mate of his to swap Nissan Patrol diesels into V8 Range Rovers.
According to him, at the time nobody wanted the V8 petrols as they were seen to be too expensive to run. There were apparently also a lot of rusted Nissan patrols with good diesel engines about so they went into the cheap Range Rovers.
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To answer the original question; of course you can fit a modern EFI engine in a Series. Would it be worth the effort? I very much doubt it. Why?
Modern EFI engines are not sloggers, the torque curve will almost certainly not match the transmission
The fuel consumption gains will not be what you predict in the real world, dieselgate happened becuase they weren't even achievable in a modern car and there are now questions about petrol car data rigging too.
No way is a modern EFI engine more relaible than a Series. No never ever.
Does a Series have "limp mode"? No, so why add it?
You would need to drive 20,000 miles a year for 5 years to pay back what you spent. If you are planning on doing that kind of mileage do not buy a Series, the engine will be the last of your problems, start with the noise, seats, heater, brakes, steering, turning circle.....
So, yes, but no.
Modern EFI engines are not sloggers, the torque curve will almost certainly not match the transmission
The fuel consumption gains will not be what you predict in the real world, dieselgate happened becuase they weren't even achievable in a modern car and there are now questions about petrol car data rigging too.
No way is a modern EFI engine more relaible than a Series. No never ever.
Does a Series have "limp mode"? No, so why add it?
You would need to drive 20,000 miles a year for 5 years to pay back what you spent. If you are planning on doing that kind of mileage do not buy a Series, the engine will be the last of your problems, start with the noise, seats, heater, brakes, steering, turning circle.....
So, yes, but no.
jamesmartin
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except the last defender pumas were only modified series
Webley1991
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There was a regular stall at the Peterborough show with some reconditioned bare engines on display.
I noticed that the bare engines from the newer types looked very similar when stood next to the Series types.
As I remember, the TD5 block even looked similar to my eyes, obviously longer with one extra cylinder.
I noticed that the bare engines from the newer types looked very similar when stood next to the Series types.
As I remember, the TD5 block even looked similar to my eyes, obviously longer with one extra cylinder.
For me the killer is the pay back mileage required. I looked into an LPG conversion for a 5L Merc, you would think that would be a no-brainer, but it only does 1-2K miles per year and it was going to take 10 years to pay back plus the extra complexity and lower reliability as there was more to fail. This could be a lot of tricky work for very little gain. The std petrol is not a bad engine, they last 50 years and still have full spares support. Most moden ECU controlled engines become obsolete once the ECU supply dries up or the ECU cost exceedes the cost of a 2nd hand engine. If you can program ECUs this is not a show stopper, but I can't. Some people on here have built their own injection set ups (cast and machined bespoke manifolds) and programmed their own ECUs, that makes sense becuase its all under their control. But they have done that for speed - dragsters, race cars, not for a Series.
