Take5 · Jul 7, 2006

Had MOT on my V8 yesterday, and apart from 2 bulbs not being right and a bit of loose brake pipe, it passed with flying colours. However, Simon did point out that nearside swivel is leaking a bit and really should be looked at.

Q. What is the likely cause and how easy is it to fix? (must get a Haynes manual...)

slob · Jul 7, 2006

swivel seal..easy to fix but time comsuming

mondo · Jul 7, 2006

Take5 said:
t nearside swivel is leaking a bit and really should be looked at.

Q. What is the likely cause and how easy is it to fix? (must get a Haynes manual...)

Try using that fluid grease (one shot) stuff instead of oil, thats if you aint got any play in yer swivel bearings

GRUNT · Jul 7, 2006

Have a look here about grease, Blessyou puts every one right Slob cracks a funny and I make a pillock of myself.

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f7/swivels-grease-oil-31708-2.html

Take5 · Jul 7, 2006

Cheers for that fellas, will check it out next weekend as I might have even more work to do after this weekends trialling...

discomania · Jul 7, 2006

You better check your back swivels while your at it!

slob · Jul 7, 2006

the death of another sensible thread

Litch · Jul 8, 2006

While I don't have a problem with one-shot swivel-grease I don't like the idea of using it to 'cure' a sleaky swivel.
Oil is leaking out because either the seal has failed of the swivel is pitted (or both), using grease instead of oil might stop the symptoms but the leak is still there and while the grease might not be leaking out,water and other muck can get in resulting in more damage long term.

If a new seal is all that is required then it is easy enough to fit but if you don't fancy stripping the swivel you can do the old 'field repair' of splitting the seal, passing it over the axle casing and then bolting it into place with the split at the top. If the swivel is past it and/or you feel like doing the job properly then a swivel strip is required but it's not the end of the world.

Oil or grease, your choice but I must admit I am still on oil myself but I am sure I will consider the grease when it is time to replace my current swivels (the teflon coated ones ones sound good).

GRUNT · Jul 8, 2006

the death of another sensible thread

Why should this thread be any different?

slob · Jul 8, 2006

ah never fooking said it should be fooking different ah was just fooking saying! ok

oh and when was the last time you split a seal and got it to not leak? the ones i got not so long ago where metal so a split was out of the question

Litch · Jul 8, 2006

Junior hacksaw (nice thin blade) and a spot of sealant. The split is right at the top and if done neatly it will normally remain leak-free indefinately. As I said, this is a field repair but one which works rather well.
Personally I would rather do a strip/rebuild as I only like to do a job once but each to their own.

slob · Jul 8, 2006

bollocks! works about aswell as a gaylander on a bowling green

mondo · Jul 8, 2006

Litch said:
While I don't have a problem with one-shot swivel-grease I don't like the idea of using it to 'cure' a sleaky swivel.
Oil is leaking out because either the seal has failed of the swivel is pitted (or both), using grease instead of oil might stop the symptoms but the leak is still there and while the grease might not be leaking out,water and other muck can get in resulting in more damage long term.

If a new seal is all that is required then it is easy enough to fit but if you don't fancy stripping the swivel you can do the old 'field repair' of splitting the seal, passing it over the axle casing and then bolting it into place with the split at the top.

Yerp!
Go to all that effort, waste half a day Removing the old seal, which is "leaking a bit" Saw a new one £3.00? and refit, fill with oil antoher £3.50?
end up back where you started, with a shagged oil seal that will let in even MORE water and ****e,

Carrying out this "field repair " would only be a solution if the swivel WONT hold oil.
A new complete kit, inc new ball,is about £65 from Paddocks 1/2 day job
Sorted!

and use the grease, "cos it dunt leak out like oil"
OR just use the fluid grease, it wont **** out like oil and yer should get to yer next MOTwithout any problem, unless yer do a lot of wading or yer swivel bearing are shagged
Have fun

OR buy a gaylander, they dont have stoopid swivel bits to bust in the first place

slob · Jul 8, 2006

yeah buy a gaylander, no swivels, but a **** load of expensive electronic stuff to **** *p and of course the well documented fact that bits fall off them when they get wet.

GRUNT · Jul 8, 2006

ah never fooking said it should be fooking different ah was just fooking saying! ok

Allright allright it was just a point don't get your trollies in a twist

Hey is that big red blob in your avytar yer piles or the seat?

And just in a moment of rash sensibility, didn't someone say something about gaiters that completely encased the swivels, and if they did where d'you get them from?

slob · Jul 8, 2006

the red blob is a gaylander i was helping to unstick from the sand trap at the 4th green at gleneagles
yeah you can get gaiters from the usual suspects but they themselves can cause problems. **** can work its way in past the strings that hold it together and rather than work it way back out it stays there doing more damage. atleast without the gaiters you can see what yer balls are like.

slob · Jul 8, 2006

GRUNT said:
Allright allright it was just a point don't get your trollies in a twist
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if i want to get me trollies in a twist i will do so
i don't need your permission to do that.
anyway with shreddies this size its kind of hard not to have some tangles in them

Litch · Jul 8, 2006

So how do you change the swivel seals on a 101?

Like I have have already said, I like to do a job properly and do it once, not have to go back to it in a few weeks / months / years if it isn't necessary. If the seal is shot then I strip the swivel to fit a new one, if the swivel is shot I replace it with a nice new one but there are a lot of people who are afraid of touching the swivel assembly and would rather do a quick fix (ecpecially if it actually works).

Worked out how to change them on a 101 yet?

mondo · Jul 8, 2006

GRUNT And just in a moment of rash sensibility said:
Gaytors, mmm nice!

Ey Grunt i'm sure i seen some "Gaytors" made out the same stuff as CV boots, would think they'd make a better job than the the old leather lace up type the Slob speaks of
dunno who dose em thou, cos i aint go no "balls" enymore

slob · Jul 8, 2006

Litch said:
So how do you change the swivel seals on a 101?

Like I have have already said, I like to do a job properly and do it once, not have to go back to it in a few weeks / months / years if it isn't necessary. If the seal is shot then I strip the swivel to fit a new one, if the swivel is shot I replace it with a nice new one but there are a lot of people who are afraid of touching the swivel assembly and would rather do a quick fix (ecpecially if it actually works).

Worked out how to change them on a 101 yet?

what the **** are you on about?? you started on about bodging the ****er in by cutting it now you're saying you like to do a proper job and not have to go back in a couple of weeks. make yer mind up will you. ****!
and what has a 101 got to do with a series ?

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