there was a click but not sure wot relay it was, swoped them all around and no difference, cud it b imobel its self, some times it will crank for a second then locks out, checked the starter out, deffo new, the lady I got the car of sed it was doing this that's y it had a new moter, she thought it was fixed until she put a gallon of oil in to top it up, fire crew were called coz of the smoke, the garage who done the starter sed she had done the engine in, may b worth while swoping the fuse board with me other v6.
Nodge68
Well-Known Member
You should be able to look inside the fuse box to try to find a bad connection. Have tried contacting the starter small spade connection to the battery + terminal with a short length of wire when it's not starting? If it still doesn't crank then the starter is suspect. If it then cranks over then the fault must in the fuse box or the wiring to the starter.
I will give that a go 2mrw when it plays up, it will that am sure of, cheers nodge.
hi, nodge, got an update for u, earlier on tonight it was playing up, so with the ignition on I swaped the relays around and the solenoid started buzzing and stayed buzzing while the ignition was on, still wud not start, so wot am thinking is when u start it from cold the solenoid stays running then trips the relay out so when the engine gets hot it wont start coz the relay has triped and the solenoid is to hot, that's when u have to wait for the solenoid to cool down b4 it will start again, now am thinking it looks like a new moter but I wonder if they have swaped it back to the old 1 b4 they sold it, lot of trouble to go to, so I think me next move is to get the starter of and c if the solenoid comes apart for cleaning, looks like its getting stuck on start up, when I put me bulb tester on the solenoid wire, I/e a live feed it was earthing out, all being well may have got to the bottom of that, put 6 plugs in and swaped the back dry plug coils to the front, that transferred the miss fire to cylinder 1, new coil fitted to no1 and runs like a dream now, will keep u updated. thanks ken.
hi thanks for your reply, have swaped cam senser with a good 1 from my other v6, it does the same with a good 1 fitted, the starter is new, removed it the other day, it spins fine when u put a live across it and returns ok, when the engine gets hot most of the time it wont start, so av now put a wire from the battery to the solenoid and it starts when hot, so the problem is the fuse board or the relays, the ignition is ok, going to swap the relays from me other v6, c how that goes, then swap the fuse board if no joy with the relays, will let u no how I get on, thanks.
hi nodge, it is new, removed it the other day and put a live across it and it spins and returns ok, so when it wont start I have now took a wire from the battery to the solenoid and it starts when hot, no more waiting for it to cool down, so the problem must b the relay or the board, going to swap them with the ones in me other v6, if no joy with the relays then I will swap the board, thanks for your reply, ken.If the starter is new, that should be evident just by looking at it. It does sound like a starter issue though. They aren't difficult to remove, just a couple of bolts and the wires and access is good. Don't forget to disconnect the battery first
greenapple
New Member
I had a similar problem as he was hot start could not have found a damaged plug from, the link below, see it, but to check it out you have to pull the battery cover of the battery.
thanks for your reply, its not the starter moter, that works fine, just wont crank over when hot, av now put a wire from the solenoid and it starts when it plays up by touching the wire to the battery live, saves waiting for it to cool down b4 it starts again, even the fans come on when its cold b4 u go to start it, just found out that there is a multi function relay behind the foot well fuse board, this cud b the all the trouble, av tried every think else, thanks ken.I had a similar problem as he was hot start could not have found a damaged plug from, the link below, see it, but to check it out you have to pull the battery cover of the battery.
hi nodge, traced the wire from the key swich, it comes out at the fan in the ecu board, middle one in the fan wires inside the unit were the ecu are, the gearbox ecu gets hot and when av took the fan out it does not spin when I put live and neutral across it, suspect that if its not working, then the gearbox ecu overheats and telling the car not to start, going to swop it with the other car and c if that sorts it out, I think the ignition wire from the switch goes to the gearbox ecu first then to the starter solenoid , don't no how or why it gets to the ecu fan, av even swoped the multi relay from the back of the fuse board, all that done was stop me remote from working, will let u no how I get on, thanks ken.
