ashleywood.ash
Active Member
max towing for freebie is 2000kg / 2 ton so unless your boat and trailer together weigh 1.95 ton then no you would not be legal, and you would run the risk of being pulled by police/vosa, not to mention that some may say that it would be unsafe.
Do you mean Ton or Tonne (imperial or metric) though there isn't much difference
The total weight you can tow with a TD4 is 2 Tonnes
So,
the answer is no,
because it would be the combined weight of the boat and trailer
and, a boat trailer is gonna b at lest 750kg (3/4 of a tonne)
Storeton Woods
New Member
Hi Tullester, The advice given above is sound - the boat and trailer is way too heavy and I think you need to hire a good sized van or commercial vehicle. If you have any doubts about the advice go to What Tow Car . com who offer a free online "outfit matching" service which gives you instant results and you can adjust the parameters (eg engine size) and see how it affects the results. Although this is aimed at caravan owners you will find you can select "Boat Trailer" from the drop down menu and you can input the width, height and aerodynamics of the trailer. I havejust had a look at the combination you suggest above and I have to say its pretty dire and illegal. It says you would be a "chicane for other traffic" I don't think you would get much out of first gear. Cheers SW.
juiceyv8
New Member
don't think you'll get a boat on it but the fl should just manage it
:hysterically_laughi:hysterically_laughi
Ian Griffiths
New Member
As said, not legal with Freelander because it would be overweight for the car.
Also you will need +E on your licence for this combination as there is no configuration in which you can be under a 3.5t train.
There are a great many vehicles which have a towing capacity in excess of 2t although it's generally accepted that in addition to this, the vehicle should also weigh more than the trailer does. Defacto caravan practice is that the trailer is 85% of the weight of the car although this is just advice - it has no grounding in law. With a +E entitlement there are no weight ratio limits and your capability is based upon the plating of the respective components of your train.
Also you will need +E on your licence for this combination as there is no configuration in which you can be under a 3.5t train.
There are a great many vehicles which have a towing capacity in excess of 2t although it's generally accepted that in addition to this, the vehicle should also weigh more than the trailer does. Defacto caravan practice is that the trailer is 85% of the weight of the car although this is just advice - it has no grounding in law. With a +E entitlement there are no weight ratio limits and your capability is based upon the plating of the respective components of your train.
ashleywood.ash
Active Member
as rich said also if you passed after 1997 it is more complicated but i will explain as simple as i can:
max you can tow is 3500kg, the fully loaded weight of the trailer must be less than the unloaded weight of the vehicle, but the max load of vehicle and max loaded weight of car cannot exceed the 3500kg even if you dont fully load them.
e.g
unloaded weight of freelander is approx 1600kg, fully loaded weight of freelander is approx 2050kg therefore heaviest loaded trailer you could tow would be a trailer with a max load of 1450kg (thats max load not what it weighs) because 1450+2050 = 3500kg and 1600kg>1450kg.
hope this is clear enough
max you can tow is 3500kg, the fully loaded weight of the trailer must be less than the unloaded weight of the vehicle, but the max load of vehicle and max loaded weight of car cannot exceed the 3500kg even if you dont fully load them.
e.g
unloaded weight of freelander is approx 1600kg, fully loaded weight of freelander is approx 2050kg therefore heaviest loaded trailer you could tow would be a trailer with a max load of 1450kg (thats max load not what it weighs) because 1450+2050 = 3500kg and 1600kg>1450kg.
hope this is clear enough
caravan doctor
New Member
as rich said also if you passed after 1997 it is more complicated but i will explain as simple as i can:
max you can tow is 3500kg, the fully loaded weight of the trailer must be less than the unloaded weight of the vehicle, but the max load of vehicle and max loaded weight of car cannot exceed the 3500kg even if you dont fully load them.
e.g
unloaded weight of freelander is approx 1600kg, fully loaded weight of freelander is approx 2050kg therefore heaviest loaded trailer you could tow would be a trailer with a max load of 1450kg (thats max load not what it weighs) because 1450+2050 = 3500kg and 1600kg>1450kg.
hope this is clear enough
are you sayin this is relevant to peeps who passed there test after '97 or before????
mick 1986
Well-Known Member
It only applies to people who passed there test after some point in 97, need to check exactly when, and if the category B+E isn't on your licence.
B+E can be achieved by one of two ways for Someone who passed there test after 97, 1; pass B+E test, 2; pass C+E test.
This is the current regulation
Car licences held before 1 January 1997
All drivers who passed a car test before 1 January 1997 retain their existing entitlement to tow trailers until their licence expires. This means they are generally entitled to drive a vehicle and trailer combination up to 8.25 tonnes MAM. They also have entitlement to drive a minibus with a trailer over 750kgs MAM.
Drivers who hold subcategory C1+E - limited to 8.25 tonnes MAM, may apply for provisional entitlement to the new subcategory C1+E, in order to take and pass the test which will increase their combined vehicle and trailer entitlement to 12 tonnes MAM. It is not necessary to gain subcategory C1 entitlement first but drivers have to meet higher medical standards, and pass both the category C theory test and the subcategory C1+E practical test.
Car licences held before 1 January 1997
All drivers who passed a car test before 1 January 1997 retain their existing entitlement to tow trailers until their licence expires. This means they are generally entitled to drive a vehicle and trailer combination up to 8.25 tonnes MAM. They also have entitlement to drive a minibus with a trailer over 750kgs MAM.
Drivers who hold subcategory C1+E - limited to 8.25 tonnes MAM, may apply for provisional entitlement to the new subcategory C1+E, in order to take and pass the test which will increase their combined vehicle and trailer entitlement to 12 tonnes MAM. It is not necessary to gain subcategory C1 entitlement first but drivers have to meet higher medical standards, and pass both the category C theory test and the subcategory C1+E practical test.
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
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Pikey
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Actually it's the MAM of the trailer which would have to be trailer weight + max load on trailer. and even if the trailer was empty it would still be the MAM that counted. you can't tow an empty 3.5toone trailer if you passed your test after 97. even if the empty weight was less than 750kg
Adz
New Member
Do you mean for the purposes of licensing, Redhand or for committing an offence for driving overladen?
