holidaychicken
Well-Known Member
if you have the cash then fair play to you although if you have just bought the car and intend to take it to a dealer or indy every time something needs doing you may be in for an expensive ride as they can be fussy little tarts. the coolant is very easy, i may have over complicated it a bit
plenty of help on here if you do want to do jobs yourself, if nothing else, treat yourself to an all comms diagnostic kit.
good luck
ChrisRange
New Member
Can I have dummy proof DIY walkthrough with images?
I am learning to do the service items, filters etc, but its disconnecting hoses and stuff I am not comfortable with.
I am learning to do the service items, filters etc, but its disconnecting hoses and stuff I am not comfortable with.
holidaychicken
Well-Known Member
have you got a copy of rave ? thats your first port of call, somebody will pop up with a link to download a copy or have a search, just got to get scran
the hoses are the easy part, as they should be the clip and quick release, i have never taken out the drain plug from the block but its shown in rave
the hoses are the easy part, as they should be the clip and quick release, i have never taken out the drain plug from the block but its shown in rave
holidaychicken
Well-Known Member
link below for rave download which is a big file, i actually bought mine off ebay from the link below
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Range Rover L322 Workshop Service + Repair Manual on Cd | eBay
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Range Rover L322 Workshop Service + Repair Manual on Cd | eBay
ChrisRange
New Member
I need STC50519 power steering fluid. Is it ok to top up PSF as opposed to flush and replacing it?
Meanwhile Ive been quoted £150 inc labour to flush and replace coolant, is this steep considering they are claiming car needs 13 Ltrs?
Meanwhile Ive been quoted £150 inc labour to flush and replace coolant, is this steep considering they are claiming car needs 13 Ltrs?
holidaychicken
Well-Known Member
i've never touched my power steering fluid, i would guess you would be ok to top up if its low but i would guess at some stage it would be a drain and refill but you would need to look in Rave for the exact answer. i cannot stress enough to get yourself a copy of rave, its is far superior to mostly any other manual for any car i have seen.
as an idea i have attached a few pages below.
i like the inugel expert which at 50 % dilution would cost roughly £50
Motul Inugel Expert Ultra Engine Coolant 1 Litre | eBay
typical OAT coolant from halfords, again £50 roughly, you could purchase deionised water to be special
Halfords | Halfords OAT Antifreeze Concentrate 5 Litres[object Object]
in the manual where it says something like general electrical precautions, when you click on that it takes you to the relevant part of the manual.
basically 2 screws to drain, although one on the block is tucked away and i've never managed to find mine but haven't looked either, squirt with a hosepipe, one screw to bleed, although bleeding can take a while as you need to wait for the stat to open to be sure to get all the air from the heater as it will blow cold until it does.
your call really, the worst you could do would be not to bleed it properly and run the engine with insufficient coolant, over heat the engine which will do serious damage. in reality, as long as you keep it topped right up during the bleed and keep an eye on temps, its a piece of cake...
di i mention to get a copy of rave ??
as an idea i have attached a few pages below.
i like the inugel expert which at 50 % dilution would cost roughly £50
Motul Inugel Expert Ultra Engine Coolant 1 Litre | eBay
typical OAT coolant from halfords, again £50 roughly, you could purchase deionised water to be special
Halfords | Halfords OAT Antifreeze Concentrate 5 Litres[object Object]
in the manual where it says something like general electrical precautions, when you click on that it takes you to the relevant part of the manual.
basically 2 screws to drain, although one on the block is tucked away and i've never managed to find mine but haven't looked either, squirt with a hosepipe, one screw to bleed, although bleeding can take a while as you need to wait for the stat to open to be sure to get all the air from the heater as it will blow cold until it does.
your call really, the worst you could do would be not to bleed it properly and run the engine with insufficient coolant, over heat the engine which will do serious damage. in reality, as long as you keep it topped right up during the bleed and keep an eye on temps, its a piece of cake...
di i mention to get a copy of rave ??
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robhew86
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Ref power steering fluid, I just drained out the whole reservoir by pulling the pipe at the bottom of the reservoir and refilled with ATF Dexron 3, bled PAS system ( turn steering lock to lock few times) run it for a week or so, then repeated same procedure.
£150 does seem steep IMO, you can buy a 5 litre of concentrated coolant for about £15, maybe add another litre or 2 of concentrated (call it £20, you DONT need LR branded stuff, as long as it meets required specification) then add water to make up your 13 litre system.
I changed mine (TD6, incl bleeding the system) in less than an hour having not touched the cooling system on it previously and that included packing tools away
HTH
Put some Bitrex in it, it'll stop pets and kids ...
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holidaychicken
Well-Known Member
am i right in thinking the complete system is 17 litres?
ChrisRange
New Member
Ref power steering fluid, I just drained out the whole reservoir by pulling the pipe at the bottom of the reservoir and refilled with ATF Dexron 3, bled PAS system ( turn steering lock to lock few times) run it for a week or so, then repeated same procedure.
£150 does seem steep IMO, you can buy a 5 litre of concentrated coolant for about £15, maybe add another litre or 2 of concentrated (call it £20, you DONT need LR branded stuff, as long as it meets required specification) then add water to make up your 13 litre system.
I changed mine (TD6, incl bleeding the system) in less than an hour having not touched the cooling system on it previously and that included packing tools away
HTH
This is the thing I bought fluid from halfrauds and when I checked the gauge, there appears to be no coolant and only water that remains. I have no idea what fluid may currently exist or had been there and dont want to risk mixing. As said below, I have not got the golden balls to DIY it >?
i've never touched my power steering fluid, i would guess you would be ok to top up if its low but i would guess at some stage it would be a drain and refill but you would need to look in Rave for the exact answer. i cannot stress enough to get yourself a copy of rave, its is far superior to mostly any other manual for any car i have seen.
as an idea i have attached a few pages below.
i like the inugel expert which at 50 % dilution would cost roughly £50
Motul Inugel Expert Ultra Engine Coolant 1 Litre | eBay
typical OAT coolant from halfords, again £50 roughly, you could purchase deionised water to be special
Halfords | Halfords OAT Antifreeze Concentrate 5 Litres[object Object]
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in the manual where it says something like general electrical precautions, when you click on that it takes you to the relevant part of the manual.
basically 2 screws to drain, although one on the block is tucked away and i've never managed to find mine but haven't looked either, squirt with a hosepipe, one screw to bleed, although bleeding can take a while as you need to wait for the stat to open to be sure to get all the air from the heater as it will blow cold until it does.
your call really, the worst you could do would be not to bleed it properly and run the engine with insufficient coolant, over heat the engine which will do serious damage. in reality, as long as you keep it topped right up during the bleed and keep an eye on temps, its a piece of cake...
di i mention to get a copy of rave ??
Thanks I know your info is very useful, if I am honest, I aint got the goonies to DIY this one, especially given the potential issues which could arise.
holidaychicken
Well-Known Member
Thats got to be your call, i am possibly being alarmist saying you could cook your engine but it could happen so better to be safe than sorry.
once you have given all your money to your local garage, cant afford to eat, have sold your children and your grandmother, you will start to get more adventurous, and thats only after a month of ownership
you should put your location on your profile, you never know you may be around the corner from somebody who will happily let all your coolant out of your engine for you..
once you have given all your money to your local garage, cant afford to eat, have sold your children and your grandmother, you will start to get more adventurous, and thats only after a month of ownership
you should put your location on your profile, you never know you may be around the corner from somebody who will happily let all your coolant out of your engine for you..
ChrisRange
New Member
Regards to frying the engine, my temps are in the center of the gauge after 15 minutes and remain so. Is this a normal temp?
If I mixed coolants, how soon could things begin to corrode etc?
If I mixed coolants, how soon could things begin to corrode etc?
holidaychicken
Well-Known Member
Thats normal, when i said keep an eye on your temp i meant during the bleeding cycle, the temp gauge is balanced so it always reads in the middle between a range of temperatures, it only really moves around if its cold or really hot
mixing coolants will turn to gunk i think rather than corrode, why dont you let the engine cool, drain out some coolant to see what it is and then once you know, top it up again with water and bleed the system and go and buy some to do the job or if you are worried still, take it to the garage and let them do it
did you read the page from rave i posted on how to do it?
mixing coolants will turn to gunk i think rather than corrode, why dont you let the engine cool, drain out some coolant to see what it is and then once you know, top it up again with water and bleed the system and go and buy some to do the job or if you are worried still, take it to the garage and let them do it
did you read the page from rave i posted on how to do it?
ChrisRange
New Member
Thanks,
I might consider this but it says to put car on a lift?
Can I drain some without putting car on a ramp/lift?
robhew86
Well-Known Member
Just buy a cheap coolant tester test tube and take a bit out the header bottle then you will see what's in the system
robhew86
Well-Known Member
A lift would make things easier, but easily done without and car in off road height.
ChrisRange
New Member
Just buy a cheap coolant tester test tube and take a bit out the header bottle then you will see what's in the system
Can you link me to a decent one? Cant see any that would be long enough to draw fluid into.
robhew86
Well-Known Member
I got one of these 6 or so months back, you will need a second mortgage (
) tells you what coolant is in it (OAT, propylene glycol etc), you should be able to tell by colour/cleanliness and will tell you the freezing point of the mix that's in there. EDIT Link might help ahy... !! http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/t...ools1/anti-freeze-testers/?549777561&0&t5_393
HTH
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