rasheed
Well-Known Member
yes. what's your day job?
rasheed
Well-Known Member
man he wasn't kidding was he! :doh::doh:
pandy7203
New Member
well dont bother then alot of good people on this forum to help u out but if u dont want any help go and do one then:doh:
dogsbody
Very senior member
I like a bit of banter and abuse like most others and I joined this forum because, unlike others, it didn't take itself too seriously but still helped when people had problems.
However I think that this went a bit far. Is this how to encourage new members? Is this how you think that this forum will grow? Or do you just want a small private club?
It's one thing to insult someone once you know them, in fact it's how most males greet their friends but to gang up on a relative newcomer like this is not necessary. The guy asked a question, if you can't help why did you bother to answer?
This is a forum for people who are only together because they happen to own the same car. I didn't see an application form requiring a certain level of mechanical, electrical or electronic knowledge. In fact the whole point in these sites is to spread whatever knowledge that you have to those that don't. This doesn't mean that the recipient is then going to open his Snap-On tool box and leap to repair it, he (or she) might just want to know enough not to get ripped off when they go to a garage. In fact I remember, very recently, reading a long thread started by a member with a very similar problem who wanted to know what to say to HER garage. I don't remember HER getting this level of abuse.
It's fun when you KNOW that the other person can take it but this was unnecessary.
Right, MK Mudpie,
In amongst the insults and abuse what these normally helpful gentlemen were trying to tell you was, to save you some money -
a) have your battery tested by someone like Halfords, Kwik-Fit etc. who will do it for free. The fact that the battery is new does not mean that it is good
b) most overnight flat battery faults seem to be caused by the remote alarm / locking system and this is operated by a radio signal from the key. The shorthand for anything to do with this is R.F. standing for radio frequency.
Now I know nothing about Classics as I am a fairly new P38 owner but, thanks to this site, I know that this can be overcome by removing one, easily accessible wire. There have even been photographs posted to assist another member. Only once you have investigated both of these possibilities should you consider contacting an auto electrician and spending money. As far as finding one can I suggest that you find an independent Land / Range Rover garage close to you (you're going to need then some time) and ask them who they would use for electrics.
From one newbie to another, welcome to this site. The help and information to be gained from here can be phenomenal, just remermber to wear your bullet proof jockstrap when some of the 'older' members are feeling playful.
However I think that this went a bit far. Is this how to encourage new members? Is this how you think that this forum will grow? Or do you just want a small private club?
It's one thing to insult someone once you know them, in fact it's how most males greet their friends but to gang up on a relative newcomer like this is not necessary. The guy asked a question, if you can't help why did you bother to answer?
This is a forum for people who are only together because they happen to own the same car. I didn't see an application form requiring a certain level of mechanical, electrical or electronic knowledge. In fact the whole point in these sites is to spread whatever knowledge that you have to those that don't. This doesn't mean that the recipient is then going to open his Snap-On tool box and leap to repair it, he (or she) might just want to know enough not to get ripped off when they go to a garage. In fact I remember, very recently, reading a long thread started by a member with a very similar problem who wanted to know what to say to HER garage. I don't remember HER getting this level of abuse.
It's fun when you KNOW that the other person can take it but this was unnecessary.
Right, MK Mudpie,
In amongst the insults and abuse what these normally helpful gentlemen were trying to tell you was, to save you some money -
a) have your battery tested by someone like Halfords, Kwik-Fit etc. who will do it for free. The fact that the battery is new does not mean that it is good
b) most overnight flat battery faults seem to be caused by the remote alarm / locking system and this is operated by a radio signal from the key. The shorthand for anything to do with this is R.F. standing for radio frequency.
Now I know nothing about Classics as I am a fairly new P38 owner but, thanks to this site, I know that this can be overcome by removing one, easily accessible wire. There have even been photographs posted to assist another member. Only once you have investigated both of these possibilities should you consider contacting an auto electrician and spending money. As far as finding one can I suggest that you find an independent Land / Range Rover garage close to you (you're going to need then some time) and ask them who they would use for electrics.
From one newbie to another, welcome to this site. The help and information to be gained from here can be phenomenal, just remermber to wear your bullet proof jockstrap when some of the 'older' members are feeling playful.
philvy
Well-Known Member
M8, what money do you spend on ere? Even if you donate, the suckers at the garages will make you pay many times more for only your small leccy prob you have now. And in my humble opinion, you deserve it.
@dogsbody:
He wanted someone to come over and fix it for him. Propably for free. I'm fairly new to this forum either, but if he got his humour amputated he maybe should get a gaylander and just pss ff. And the problem with him was that he was rude and expected someone who wants to help him would read through his earlier posts to find out what car he's got etc etc.
Good luck Mudpie, wherever you may go now. May it be far away. Or get two pounds of humour and a spoon of "this forum is for help, and it's free. But it's no ****ing yellow pages, and especially no someone-do-it-for-me-for-free-club."
good luck to him.
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I dont remember once askin 4 any body to come an solve the problem in fact if u can find where i posted that comment please high light it 4 me as my short term memory seems 2 have failed me , how ever i do seem 2 recal vaguely that i asked 4 a recommendation of a good auto electrician , but hey perhaps i can't type or read or may be im dyslexic an typed the whole thing wrong , thanx dogsbody its not a key problem , still old fashion key in the hole , battery an alternator has been checked by numerous private an proffesionals 2 no avail , others have led me 2 a tool that maplins sell that u plug into the fuse holder an it tells u which is drainin when all should be off , not something i knew u could do , now 2 make most of the dry day an c wot else i can find on her , its not monday or a no sex night or a full moon is it ?
jai_landrover
Well-Known Member
MK relax,
This forum is always **** taking nothing meant by it mostly, OK your Rangie Classic has a lecky fault.
You can pay somone to fix it for you which is a quick one time expensive fix. If thats what you want go for it. I don't know anyone around ere tho.
Your best be it to buy a DVM digital volt meter Cheapie £10 ish and try and find the fault once you find it yourself you can do it again saving yourself quite a bit of money.
Somthing is drawing current enough throughout the day to driain a battery. Myself you need to determin if its always being drained every single day weather the car is used or not. Correct diagnosis is key here.
I'm not a fan of the yellow top or red top I think they are a bit overpriced bling and are nothing really special. Lots of people that like their bolt on usles stuff will advise to get such batterys but you can't go wrong with just a good old big Amp battery such as Numax or on a Rangie Classic 2Xnumax because you have a space for them.
Ok FIRST Check your voltage at the battery, write it down battey voltage: take your meter off, Start vehicle see what voltage the battery is charging up to. This will give you a rough idea of what the alternator is doing i.e working or not working well enough.
Earth points or corroded earth points are a g iven on th eolder motors worth a look.
This forum is always **** taking nothing meant by it mostly, OK your Rangie Classic has a lecky fault.
You can pay somone to fix it for you which is a quick one time expensive fix. If thats what you want go for it. I don't know anyone around ere tho.
Your best be it to buy a DVM digital volt meter Cheapie £10 ish and try and find the fault once you find it yourself you can do it again saving yourself quite a bit of money.
Somthing is drawing current enough throughout the day to driain a battery. Myself you need to determin if its always being drained every single day weather the car is used or not. Correct diagnosis is key here.
I'm not a fan of the yellow top or red top I think they are a bit overpriced bling and are nothing really special. Lots of people that like their bolt on usles stuff will advise to get such batterys but you can't go wrong with just a good old big Amp battery such as Numax or on a Rangie Classic 2Xnumax because you have a space for them.
Ok FIRST Check your voltage at the battery, write it down battey voltage: take your meter off, Start vehicle see what voltage the battery is charging up to. This will give you a rough idea of what the alternator is doing i.e working or not working well enough.
Earth points or corroded earth points are a g iven on th eolder motors worth a look.
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CARserv UK Unit 6 Wilbury Court, 29, Wilbury Way, Hitchin, Witchin, Hertfordshire SG4 0TW
.Tel: 01462 411098
Auto Electrical Services Willowbridge Marina, Stoke Rd, Bletchley, Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire MK2 3JZ
Tel: 01908 643179
SS Auto Clinic 117, Penryn Avenue, Fishermead, Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire MK6 2BH
Tel: 07940 169720
he has had the batt and alternator tested, Jai. he cant be bothered to read about the RF problem - so let him pay through the nose for an auto electrician. You cant help someone that doesnt give you all the facts and wont listen to good advice.
" dont confuse me with facts - my mind is made up!"
jai_landrover
Well-Known Member
Again depends who tested it doesn't it. Would you trust someone to test your battery and Alt I wouldn't but I guess a half decent meter with a decent amp range. Just need to get a spare lead to solder in a fuse holder so you can be sure the circuit ist still protected. It would do him no harm to pull each fuse by turn and check which circuit exactly is pulling current through the fuse box when idle aslong as the meter can handle the amperage.
My mate a sparky who should have known better had somthing similar he just couldn't work out why his battery went flat every day in summer he worked nights and slept in the day his thermostat was turned right down when it warmed up in the day time his lecky fans were working billio most of the day a nice 25-30A draw until he came to start it Dead! that was more stupidity than anything else had him going tho for a while.
My mate a sparky who should have known better had somthing similar he just couldn't work out why his battery went flat every day in summer he worked nights and slept in the day his thermostat was turned right down when it warmed up in the day time his lecky fans were working billio most of the day a nice 25-30A draw until he came to start it Dead! that was more stupidity than anything else had him going tho for a while.
rasheed
Well-Known Member
Dogsbody, I appreciate you trying to keep the peace and yes, sometimes this forum can get a little rough and tumble for newcomers. But I think your response was misguided in this case. Your mate is the one who got presumptuous and arrogant. You really don't think anyone on here is going to take it do you? I was still keeping it humourous when I asked for some pot!
Read the first few posts in the thread. It went basically like this:
1. Hiya, have a problem - flat battery - anyone know an electrician?
2. What car
3. Classic
4. Would have been a good idea to mention that in the title
5. Ooh i can see sea-horses and giant rabbits all flying in a pretty purple sky...
6. Eh?
7. Aargh! Fookin aliens, fookin electricians, fookin... foo...dribble...
Read the first few posts in the thread. It went basically like this:
1. Hiya, have a problem - flat battery - anyone know an electrician?
2. What car
3. Classic
4. Would have been a good idea to mention that in the title
5. Ooh i can see sea-horses and giant rabbits all flying in a pretty purple sky...
6. Eh?
7. Aargh! Fookin aliens, fookin electricians, fookin... foo...dribble...
jai , sorry i didnt get ova 2 u 2day , went the other way an borrowed a fuse box tester thingy , not sure how it works but i think i said before i no nothin bout electrics so mayb others wishes will come 2 fruition an fire occur , an 2 get another alternator , more play this afternoon
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classic kev
Well-Known Member
I'm n ot sure what all the fuss is about. MKMudpie is a decent enough guy, I know, I've met him so I think this storm in a tea cup is a bit unnecessary. Nuf said.
If MKMudpie is still wanting to think about going to an auto electrician, try Gorley's at Markyate or Bedfordshire Auto Electrics at Sundon Park.
If MKMudpie is still wanting to think about going to an auto electrician, try Gorley's at Markyate or Bedfordshire Auto Electrics at Sundon Park.
