Grrrr, your not the only one who has had a bit if a mare this weekend - I didn't even get out for a run this afternoon, (was out at 09:30 then had a break for lunch and then back out till 17:00)!

Good luck with the drilling and chiselling - I have to get my front valence off at some point in the future, (hoping that will be straight forward), but better get my sunroof sorted first!
 
Is there no way the plastic bit comes off without removing the bumper?

Not really, while it's still attached to the car, it's held on with metal clips but also a lot of black RTV type stuff. But you may be able to get to the 2 hex bolts on either side of the longditudinal chassis rails that hold the bumper mounting plates. Good luck.

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odyssey said:
Is there no way the plastic bit comes off without removing the bumper?

Not really, while it's still attached to the car, it's held on with metal clips but also a lot of black RTV type stuff. But you may be able to get to the 2 hex bolts on either side of the longditudinal chassis rails that hold the bumper mounting plates. Good luck.

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Cannot get at those hex bolts with the plastic one in place.

The bolt had a flange. If my tinkering has loosened it enough I might be able to knock it round with a hole-punch.
 
I think you're going to find the bolt rusted in to the bracket, and knocking it round with a hole punch is a long shot. There's no way it would put up this much resistance otherwise.
 
Well it's out! Here's what it looked like after 3 hours.

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Took some drilling, and a cold chisel but we managed to get the bumper off today. Putting the mount in the vice and getting it red hot allowed us to get the remains of the bolt out too, so jobs a good 'un.
 
MrGorsky said:
Well it's out! Here's what it looked like after 3 hours.

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Took some drilling, and a cold chisel but we managed to get the bumper off today. Putting the mount in the vice and getting it red hot allowed us to get the remains of the bolt out too, so jobs a good 'un.
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That was longer than 3 hours! You forgot the Torx socket, Irwin Grips, arc-welder and swearing that went before. Not quite as precise an extraction as I was hoping for but very pleased it is out. No way that has been out in years. They must have just ripped the plastic off and stuck a new plastic one on after the bus drove into it.
 
Glad you got there in the end!

The sun is shining, I have already been out running with the dogs, I attempted to bond the sunroof glass to the sunroof frame, (yesterday afternoon), so I will now remove the complete sunroof assembly from the car, (for the third time), in an attempt to achieve 'sunroof activation nirvana' as I am still not happy with the juddering action!

I can now remove a complete sunroof, (stripping it down to individual components), in about 20 minutes - not bad when considering I don't have a second pair of hands!

Not looking forward to the front valence removal however, (at some point in the near future),and I suspect that my rear bumper may have to come off when I investigate my last remaining rear compartment leak!!
 
I got sensors for the front too so the front will have to come off yet.

I'll take photos next time I take the back off. It is an odd design but rather useful when it comes to getting the stud remains out.
 
Grrrrrr said:
I got sensors for the front too so the front will have to come off yet.

I'll take photos next time I take the back off. It is an odd design but rather useful when it comes to getting the stud remains out.
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Front should be easier, rear gets all the crap.
 
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Front is simple pimple....hardest part I found was putting the side spring clippy thingys back on!
 
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Is that an aviation technical term Ant ?:D:D:D
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Oh it certainly is....
The number of times we have had to answer tech queries from Boeing maintenance teams telling them to grab the large wassit, that looks like a donkeys penis, stick that through the gozzinta, and secure with a springy thingy clip like do-dad....you know the one that looks like a nappy pin....once you have done that, attach the bootstrap kit to the pylon and using the wire ropes attach the shackles through the whatchamacallit on the engine casing...set a preload using the dially indicatory thingy, you know the one marked in kgf, and using the AMM load the bootstrap and then drive out the large fuse pinny looking thing from the pylon....yeah, the big pin that looks like a whales penis bone....no not the little one, the really fecking big one....yep, that's the kiddy.....now remove that....

Lower the engine into the cradle , and using the wassits on the side of the stand, fix the engine into the cradle.....yes the big yellow hing on the floor....yes, well you can't feckin miss it, it weighs 3 tonnes and is the size of a large shed, yes....the one with the wheels on...Jesus, and they let you build/fix aircraft....

Many thanks for calling the Tech Office!
 
If that was Microsoft help you'd get: raise cradle, undo fixings and connections, lower cradle. Reminds me of Monty Python's Blue Peter sketch when they teach you how to play a musical instrument.
 
Saint.V8 said:
Oh it certainly is....
The number of times we have had to answer tech queries from Boeing maintenance teams telling them to grab the large wassit, that looks like a donkeys penis, stick that through the gozzinta, and secure with a springy thingy clip like do-dad....you know the one that looks like a nappy pin....once you have done that, attach the bootstrap kit to the pylon and using the wire ropes attach the shackles through the whatchamacallit on the engine casing...set a preload using the dially indicatory thingy, you know the one marked in kgf, and using the AMM load the bootstrap and then drive out the large fuse pinny looking thing from the pylon....yeah, the big pin that looks like a whales penis bone....no not the little one, the really fecking big one....yep, that's the kiddy.....now remove that....

Lower the engine into the cradle , and using the wassits on the side of the stand, fix the engine into the cradle.....yes the big yellow hing on the floor....yes, well you can't feckin miss it, it weighs 3 tonnes and is the size of a large shed, yes....the one with the wheels on...Jesus, and they let you build/fix aircraft....

Many thanks for calling the Tech Office!
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Boeing don't work from tech drawings they work from planning sheets. Typical toilet break is. With left hand lift toilet seat. Using right hand place thumb and fore finger on zip tab and grip. Move right hand downwards release grip on zip tab. Using thumb only of left hand feel for waistband of undershorts. Hook thumb in wasteband and move left hand downwards and hold. Using right hand feel for dick in fly aperture. Grip and remove from opening. Point in direction of toilet bowl. Proceed to piss. For further instructions see planning sheet. Toilet break, issue II. Available from planning office.
 
That reminds me of the old joke about motor engineers from BMW, Renault and Rolls Royce, in the toilet at at a conference, that has the punchline " ... at Rolls Royce they teach us not to p iss on our hands"
 
Pete The Biker said:
Nothing about putting your dick away afterwards, then?
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No that's how Boeing work you have to walk to the planning office with your dick in your hand and draw out. Toilet break planning sheet issue II. For instructions on how to put it away. Thought that much was obvious. Boeing reps were aghast when they found out that fitters in my department worked from the latest drawings and not written instructions. Working from planning at BAe you would more than likely finish up with an Halifax rather than a Tornado. :D:D
 
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When the instructions or process becomes more important than the end product you're in a heap of cacky. Quite a shock when you see some areas of the Public Sector and even more so when they cannot see how stupid it is ... or do see it but carry on regardless.
 
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