ash maddox · Mar 11, 2018

Hi All ,

I joined the forum as always think those who own and run older cars are the most knowledgeable and the best for saying how owner ship really is !

I have always dreamed of having an early Series 1 and I think I may have found one that might work but I am a little worried that some bits dont match up ..

its registered as a 1951 - therefore should be the 1600cc I believe and 80" .

The engine after opening the bonnet and questioning the owner is not the original - its a 2200cc unit apparently that I guess , although I would prefer the original , might make it perhaps more usuable which is my plan !

The thing I don't understand fully is the chassis number ... the plate from the car under the bonnet isnt stamped so I guess either replaced or never stamped. So I read up on other locations where it is stamped and headed to the front engine mount. The Car is LHD .

there it is stamped either

L6112408 ( therefore missing a digit I believe from research)
or maybe
16112408 ( there missing the L or R at the front ...)

I wonder whether anyone could perhaps help with telling me if perhaps this car is not what it seems or whether it is a 51 LHD 80 inch vehicle ?

I have tried to upload a few pics - I hope they are attached

any help much appreciated as I have a feeling that my wife will be repeating " I told you so " if I get it hideously wrong !

many thanks in advance to everyone for their help

Ash

Hicap phill · Mar 11, 2018

Defiantly early series1 door tops. Later ones don't have the holes in door tops to open the door.
No external door latch/handle
Rad is original shape
Would not worry about the engine 1600/2000 over heat quick.
Check chassis in case it needs welding but these are well made & thick metal.
That looks a mint motor
Good luck in your build/purchase

There is 2 years between these motors & one on left is 51.
so you can see differences.

ash maddox · Mar 11, 2018

Hicap phill said:
Defiantly early series1 door tops. Later ones don't have the holes in door tops to open the door.
No external door latch/handle
Rad is original shape
Would not worry about the engine 1600/2000 over heat quick.
Check chassis in case it needs welding but these are well made & thick metal.
That looks a mint motor
Good luck in your build/purchase

There is 2 years between these motors & one on left is 51.
so you can see differences.
View attachment 144406

Hi Phill

thankyou so much - the front grille of the one I am looking at is identical to your KVS 661.

so perhaps the engine upgrade it has had will work well for more day to day use and longer term ownership so might be a good thing !

Ash

ash maddox · Mar 11, 2018

here is the front of the one I am looking at ....

Hicap phill · Mar 11, 2018

Think This has a series 1 club badge on the front grill. If it is it's well looked after. Is this Ex military?
Looks like an oil cooler has been fitted.
What country you buying this from?

Hicap phill · Mar 11, 2018

Oh if you can cope with the noise of a Ducati you should be ok in a Landrover

Turboman · Mar 11, 2018

Hicap phill said:
Oh if you can cope with the noise of a Ducati you should be ok in a Landrover

Except you don't usually wear a crash helmet in a Landrover.

Hicap phill · Mar 11, 2018

Don't have any photos of our early days of driving to a comp safari fully kitted in rangerover bob tail. Then racing & then driving home.
Not like today's drivers who use trailers

Here you go screens down through France last year. No goggles or intercoms. Fun trying to tell the driver where to go from the tulip diagrams. Oh bees hurt

ash maddox · Mar 11, 2018

Hicap phill said:
Oh if you can cope with the noise of a Ducati you should be ok in a Landrover

thats very true ! and I am assuming the clutch is probably similar and rudimental as well !!!

ash maddox · Mar 11, 2018

Hicap phill said:
Think This has a series 1 club badge on the front grill. If it is it's well looked after. Is this Ex military?
Looks like an oil cooler has been fitted.
What country you buying this from?

I dont know if its ex military - is there a way of checking ? I was hoping the chassis number might answer a few questions re origin but it doesn't see to fit into the criteria ... if the first digit is a 1 rather than an "L" it seems to make slight sense but the last 4 digits got the build number didn't match the suggested numbers I found on some websites!

its in South America - there are quite a few series 2's about out there but this once attracted me being the series 1

freelance · Mar 11, 2018

Lovely looking 80”, with one or two 86” mods, unusual to have a one piece flap under windscreen, military use(Gibraltar) perhaps?

Hicap phill · Mar 11, 2018

Not on our motor changed the box to a S3 & fitted a hydrolic clutch on existing pedal out the floor. Luxury for the wife to drive.

Unsure how you check chassis numbers best to ask series 1 club.

ash maddox · Mar 11, 2018

Hicap phill said:
Think This has a series 1 club badge on the front grill. If it is it's well looked after. Is this Ex military?
Looks like an oil cooler has been fitted.
What country you buying this from?

I couldn't see t

freelance said:
Lovely looking 80”, with one or two 86” mods, unusual to have a one piece flap under windscreen, military use(Gibraltar) perhaps?

the car belonged to the father of the vendor who sadly passed and this was his pride and joy apparently - although in later life perhaps his parking wasn't so good as the front wing is dented ! but he also informed me that some restoration work has been done to the car but he thought 10+ years ago. I am wondering perhaps whether the shortage of correct parts might have lead to the few later additions.

sorry to sound very amateurish but I couldn't see the oil cooler under the bonnet ( although perhaps wasn't looking correctly ) I did check what the unusual modification to the front right hand wing was ( which I haven't see on any others on my research )

thanks as always

Ash

Hicap phill · Mar 11, 2018

Oil cooler in front of radiator
Thing on wing is the base for military aerial.
Spotted these off your last photo .

Ensure you get up to date photos before you have it shipped so you know if any damage is caused.
Family member just got a 2B from Australia in a container so any thing can be shipped to you.

ash maddox · Mar 11, 2018

Hicap phill said:
Oil cooler in front of radiator
Thing on wing is the base for military aerial.
Spotted these off your last photo .

Ensure you get up to date photos before you have it shipped so you know if any damage is caused.
Family member just got a 2B from Australia in a container so any thing can be shipped to you.

ah great ! keen eye ! ( obviously no bee damage ! )

Hicap phill · Mar 15, 2018

@ashmaddox
Just wandered into my brothers garage.
Found he has brought another

Still both sound nice though. Too cold to ride today

Flossie · Mar 15, 2018

@ash maddox
No gap in yours @Hicap phill

ash maddox · Mar 15, 2018

Hicap phill said:
@ashmaddox
Just wandered into my brothers garage.
Found he has brought another
Still both sound nice though. Too cold to ride today
View attachment 144638

a lovely pair as they say !

does anyone know how I make sure I dont pay too much for my first landrover! I have looked online and seem to range from £5k to £35k !

are ex military worth less ? ( I would guess so ? )

thanks everyone

Frenchdame · Mar 15, 2018

Hicap phill said:
Defiantly early series1 door tops. Later ones don't have the holes in door tops to open the door.
No external door latch/handle
Rad is original shape
Would not worry about the engine 1600/2000 over heat quick.
Check chassis in case it needs welding but these are well made & thick metal.
That looks a mint motor
Good luck in your build/purchase

There is 2 years between these motors & one on left is 51.
so you can see differences.
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Beautiful brother and sister wow like a lot

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