Datatek
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With any Range Rover, you either need very deep pockets as the garage empties your wallet trying to fix things on a trial and error basis, or you need DIY skills and Landyzone
The garage I use does not fix things on a trail and error basis. They just fix things. No every mechanic is incompetent. Some know what they are doing. There is a big tenancy by those that have had a poor experience to rubbish all in the trade so you must do it yourself. Frankly that's wrong. Not every diyer is competent either.
Please can we be kinder to folk you don't know.
Please can we be kinder to folk you don't know.
tomcat59alan
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I think Keith was pointing out the failures of a lot of garages these days. Main dealers don't have mechanics these days they have "technicians" ,and if the computer says change this they do or it's one service manager and fitters,if the manager diagnosis a problem he'll say fit this or that piece. They'll even swap parts off a working car to see if it will cure a problem. And at the same time charge through the roof for the privilege.
Again your generalising based on the worst experiences. This I think is unfair. You also slate all main dealers. There will be some that are better than others and the dealers are only as good as the staff they have and can retain. It is always true that a business focused on new sales may suffer on the maintenence side whilst a business focused on repair only will have a better chance at excelling at that. Such generalisation do not capture all organisations though. The world is not so black and white. Can we be less polarised and slate less.
tomcat59alan
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I suppose we could be but I've experienced many customers who's experience of main stealers was being totally ripped off.
Find me a main stealer that knows about the P38, they ain't got a clue
How would they get on with a series 3 with no OBD port?
My series 3 was easy to work on but as you say they wouldn't have a clue today without the OBD port
No, I'll continue to speak as I find - and it's not good.
In the meantime, I'll do my own maintenance, and keep my vehicles in excellent condition.
I'd also point out that very few if any so called garages do any sort of maintenance at all - they might try to fix things, of they might service stuff to a minimum standard, but maintenance is not something they are interested in.... our sons dealer serviced modern car is a prime example - it is red rusty underneath, to the point of MOT advisory.....!
tomcat59alan
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I couldn't agree more,a well regarded garage serviced my friends Disco ,he had a squeak from the drive line and asked me to have a look for him.The prop uj,'s and slides were dry! A quick once over with the grease gun sorted it. Went back to the garage which is owned by a friend and had a quiet word, he asked the mechanic to explain,his reply was he had never had to grease any vehicle on a service unless it was spray grease on the door hingesNo, I'll continue to speak as I find - and it's not good.
In the meantime, I'll do my own maintenance, and keep my vehicles in excellent condition.
I'd also point out that very few if any so called garages do any sort of maintenance at all - they might try to fix things, of they might service stuff to a minimum standard, but maintenance is not something they are interested in.... our sons dealer serviced modern car is a prime example - it is red rusty underneath, to the point of MOT advisory.....!
.UPDATE!
I took the car to a test center to let them have a check. They hade a look at steering, suspension, the electrics, exterior/interior, bushings and much more. I paid £140...and he said he could'nt find any big problems except some minor things that I already know of.
Now my wife says I got a nice car that I don't have to spend money on. So I've paid money for a thing that's lowered my chances of geting the car fixed.
But the problem is still there. When I brake at low speed to a stop, it feels like the rear axel is loose and the steering wheel makes a small hit to the left. Hard to explain.
Have a nice day!
I took the car to a test center to let them have a check. They hade a look at steering, suspension, the electrics, exterior/interior, bushings and much more. I paid £140...and he said he could'nt find any big problems except some minor things that I already know of.
Now my wife says I got a nice car that I don't have to spend money on. So I've paid money for a thing that's lowered my chances of geting the car fixed.
But the problem is still there. When I brake at low speed to a stop, it feels like the rear axel is loose and the steering wheel makes a small hit to the left. Hard to explain.
Have a nice day!
Try a different garage, but don't tell them you already had it looked at. Second opinion could be better or worse, but at least you might have a better idea, but it does sound like steering alignment, ball joints, suspension bushes, etc.
- Do the tyres match all round ?
- Are they silly low profile ?
- Any abnormal wear ?
Yeah, I think I need to go to a other garage as well.
The previous owner changed the tires to 275/40 (not cool) but the original says it should be 255/50 20”. Do you think the tires can have that big impact on the car?
It feels very bumpy and you can feel the smallest bump in the road. A Porsche 911 is smoother over bumps than mine RR, and that tells me something is wrong.
neilly
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Turboman
Mab An Gov
The tyres and wheels have a huge effect.
I bought an old Disco 2, a previous owner had put big wheels and low pro tyres on.
It was almost undriveable, not only felt every stone on the road, but also wandered about and followed the truck ruts in the tarmac.
I bought some second hand standard alloys, and got a set of midrange standard tyres. Drove perfectly.
I would suggest going back to standard wheels and tyres before doing anything else, it could be the root cause of your problems.
tomcat59alan
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And I take it you have checked the tyre pressures.
neilly
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275/40 what? 19, 20, 22 ?
