Have been told that the new regulations for MOT are indicating that if the EGR valve has been removed it will mean an MOT failiure.
Has anyone else heard this?

Yes,

there is a long thread about it somewhere.

Cheers

Apparently it can't be seen with the engine cover on, and "apparently" they cant remove that
Or find yourself a friendly MOT'er

+1, just leave the engine cover on. From an MOT tester, they are not allowed to remove it....

Tony

Jamiegreen said:

Apparently it can't be seen with the engine cover on, and "apparently" they cant remove that
Or find yourself a friendly MOT'er

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That's right, the test station can't take things apart to check, so if they can't see it, they can't comment on it. If you present the vehicle for testing without the acoustic cover so that everything can be seen, I don't know what might happen in that case.
They can however see what sort of kit is fitted to the exhaust from underneath, but even then they can't make any checks to see whether or not the cat and other silencers have been "doctored". They obviously can do the exhaust emissions tests which might or might not show up problems.

welshspringer said:

Have been told that the new regulations for MOT are indicating that if the EGR valve has been removed it will mean an MOT failiure.
Has anyone else heard this?

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hi mate

here u go , https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/new-mot-rules-may-2018.325509/

New Standards on MOT From May 2018

Advisories are being replaced with minor fails. These are all pre-written & approved by DVSA. You will still get a pass but they will be noted on your test certificate. Manual advisories are still being worked out but may disappear completely.

Those of you who have changed your standard headlight bulbs for HID's will now get a major fail even if the aim is correct. It has always been an offence to fit HID bulbs to halogen headlamps so the MOT is now in line with that.

Reverse lights are now part of the MOT for any car registered from 1st September 2009 (59 plate onwards). Daytime running lamps (DRL's) & front fog lamps must work on vehicles registered from March 2018 (18 plate onwards).

Engine Management Light is now a major fail. It must come on with the ignition and then turn off when the engine is started.

Brake pad warning lights are a major fail

Handbrake with excessive travel is now a major fail. Before it would only a fail if there was no reserve travel.

Contaminated (dirty) brake fluid is a major fail. Not sure how that will work as the MOT tester isn't allowed to remove the fluid cap.

Oil leaks (engine, gearbox etc.) can be a major failure if they are deemed large enough.

It seems they have removed the failure for tyres not being fitted according to sidewall instructions. Inner/outer or rotation incorrect.

Any modifications/removal to emissions related devices, this includes DPF'S and EGR's is now a major fail.

Where a DPF canister has clearly been cut open and re-welded, it will now fail.

A vehicle fitted with a DPF that emits any kind of visible smoke during the metered test will now fail

Emissions limits for diesels registered on or after 1st of January 2014 have been reduced. All diesels will now need to pass the limit that was set by the manufacturer when the car was new. This can be found on the VIN plate. For example the current limit for your diesel car may be 1.50. That could change to as low as 0.30 with the new rules.

brian47 said:

That's right, the test station can't take things apart to check, so if they can't see it, they can't comment on it. If you present the vehicle for testing without the acoustic cover so that everything can be seen, I don't know what might happen in that case.
They can however see what sort of kit is fitted to the exhaust from underneath, but even then they can't make any checks to see whether or not the cat and other silencers have been "doctored". They obviously can do the exhaust emissions tests which might or might not show up problems.

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hi

know on my D3 the EGR pipes can be seen without removing the cover, will be reinstalling mine but with a 3mm plate between the engine and pipe

assume also where the complete EGR valve has been removed it will have to be reinstated

know on my hippo i removed the complete egr valve and can see many companies being busy after May

brian47 said:

That's right, the test station can't take things apart to check, so if they can't see it, they can't comment on it. If you present the vehicle for testing without the acoustic cover so that everything can be seen, I don't know what might happen in that case.
They can however see what sort of kit is fitted to the exhaust from underneath, but even then they can't make any checks to see whether or not the cat and other silencers have been "doctored". They obviously can do the exhaust emissions tests which might or might not show up problems.

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Im sure I read if they can see the DPF has been cut/gutted and welded shut then thats an auto fail.

lynall said:

Im sure I read if they can see the DPF has been cut/gutted and welded shut then thats an auto fail.

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There you have the operative phrase, "If they can see"

brian47 said:

That's right, the test station can't take things apart to check, so if they can't see it, they can't comment on it. If you present the vehicle for testing without the acoustic cover so that everything can be seen, I don't know what might happen in that case.
They can however see what sort of kit is fitted to the exhaust from underneath, but even then they can't make any checks to see whether or not the cat and other silencers have been "doctored". They obviously can do the exhaust emissions tests which might or might not show up problems.

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brian47 said:

That's right, the test station can't take things apart to check, so if they can't see it, they can't comment on it. If you present the vehicle for testing without the acoustic cover so that everything can be seen, I don't know what might happen in that case.
They can however see what sort of kit is fitted to the exhaust from underneath, but even then they can't make any checks to see whether or not the cat and other silencers have been "doctored". They obviously can do the exhaust emissions tests which might or might not show up problems.

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Thanks for the info, I did keep the redundant EGR walve and pipes. The garage took it off because I had

welshspringer said:

Thanks for the info, I did keep the redundant EGR walve and pipes. The garage took it off because I had

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I kept the ones I'd removed. And then in the autumn (just before I found out about the new MoT rules) I had a garage tidy up and threw it out.

brian47 said:

There you have the operative phrase, "If they can see"

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Hazard a guess here but I would imagine a dpf is pretty easy to see on any landrover product, plus being in the game they are going to knoe where to look.

Testers will know where to look ......and can use a mirror

lynall said:

Im sure I read if they can see the DPF has been cut/gutted and welded shut then thats an auto fail.

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Cut and gut from the 'top', so when fitted it looks good ...

Moron said:

Testers will know where to look ......and can use a mirror

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But will they?

MJI said:

But will they?

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I think yes......as a tester I need to do a fair test while at the same time make sure my backsides covered