O Bife

O Bife

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Hi there,

Just got a set of the EBC Green pads fitted (last Wed) along with the EBC Rotors on the front end of our P38. Everything seemed to go well with the fitting, but as I got home that evening just 5Km from the machanics I noticed a slight scraping noise from one of the front wheels. I took her back in on the Fri and we took of the front left tyre. What we found was that the black metal thing on the outer part of the pad had become unstuck and had slipped down and started to rub against the rotor cylinder.

We removed the pad and the machanic re-fitted the offending metal plate after which we re-fitted the pad. All seemed ok untill yesterday. Yep the noise started again and I could see that the metal plate had again slipped down and was rubbing against the cylinder.

Now, question, do I remove the metal plate altogether or do I try to stick it back onto the pad with some stronger glue than that used in the first place?

Any ideas?

All the best,

Phil
 
Hi Phil.
Are you talking about brake pads?
If you are and you are talking about the plate to which the friction material is stuck to then it needs to go back as they/it are not fit for purpose. If you are talking about the shim you can buy stick on shims.

Cheers Nick.
 
Hi Nick,

It's what you called the "shim" (the, in this case, black metal plate that is stuck onto the oposite side of the pad, the outer side away from the disk/rotor).

I'm going to remove the pad tomorrow and try getting it glued into place properly with some super glue as I can't just pop down the road to a local store and buy a set over here in Portugal. They've never seen pads like theses here, let alone "stick on Shims" (now they would really confuse them over here!)

I think that by gluing it in place it should work. When all said and done it was gued in place to start with. Just hope it works.

Anyway, thanks for your help, I'll keep you informed.

All the best,

Phil
 
Glue?!:eek:

This is your brakes your talking about not a piece if interior plastic if theres a problem with the pads send them back for a replacement.
 
If they are stuck on in the first place and like Nick said you can get stick on Shims, what's wrong with sticking the one back on?
 
You are talking about putting glue on your brakes are you not?

Does anyone else think this sounds crazy?
 
Hi all.
He is, and as its only the shim it sounds like the glue used in manufacture is not high heat resistant. Brake = friction = shim not on pad. I really think you should take them back, but if your happy to glue them you'll need somthing resistant to high temp methinks.
I didnt look to see where you were in the world, sorry.

let me know what happens and what glue you get.

Cheers, Nick.
 
Hi all,

Right, the following is taken from EBC's site:

"[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SHIMS - WHEN DO I NEED THEM?
Many semi metallic pads (those containing steel fibre) come fitted from the factory or aftermarket suppliers with rubberised metal shims on the back to prevent rattling and squealing. This is because of the type of material they use. At EBC we very rarely use shims because in 99 cases out of 100 we do not get noise, due to the non metallic nature of our pads. In certain cases however and in certain types of use, especially “under-use” shims may be necessary to quieten a pad. These can be obtained from EBC free of charge by simply calling 818 362 5467 and stating the type of vehicle."

Now does it sound so crazy of me refitting the offending shim? They wouldn't be sending them out like they do if this was the case.

Anyway, as I mentioned before in this thread, these sort of things aren't that easy to come by over here in Portugal. Add to that the fact that pads for P38s ain't that cheap over here and the time to post them back and forth to the UK or the States you can see why I would prefere to sort it out and it seems that it can be by doing this. As Nick quite rightly said, it's just the shim on the outside of the brake. I'm even thinking about removing it to see how they act/sound after reading some sections of the EBC site.

Nick, I will keep you informed on the progress. If they were glued in place in the first place it only sounds logical to do likewise with them now.

Cheers,

Phil
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Hi all,

Well, as I said before, I'll let you all know how the "gluing" went.

:D It worked !

I took the pad out and cleaned up the shim and the area on the pad where it fits then all I did was Super Glue the little sod into place and clamped it for an hour. I've done a fare few klicks since then and the pads have bedded down nicely. The shim is still in it's rightful place.

All the best,

Phil
 
I was looking at replacing my rotors and pads with EBC sport rotors (dimpled and slotted) and Green Pads what do y'all think.
 
Go for it!

I've had mine on for some time now and they put pay to a lot gremerlins I was having with shudder, noise and basic braking.

I got mine from Paddocks and even though I had them sent to me in Portugal they saved me a small fortune (the pads alone cost over €100 here). Here are links to the pages, the 1st one is for the pads and the 2nd one is for the discs.

- Performance_Braking

- Performance_Braking

All the best,

Phil
 
All it all depends what super glue one uses;) and by what it looks like this one I used has not got and issue with H2O:D
 
most cheap stuff is the orig cyanoacrylate but more expensive or specialist stuff can be (it was originally used as a substitute for stiches in medical operations and cost £50 per 10g bottle in the sixties so was like gold and the water content of the human body dissolved it away after some days/weeks) maybe a bit of gun gum would be better(heat and water resistant) dont know never come across this prob
 
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