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steve c

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after some good advice on this forum regarding my problems registering my uk landy in france, (there had been an engine change in the past and landrover france saying it extremely difficult to get certificate of conformity) someone suggested that it might be an idea to change the vin number with the dvla to reflect the new engine (it was petrol and is now diesel) this may allow me to bypass all the problems. Does anybody know how i might go ahead changing the vin number on the v5?
thanks for the help
 
hi there, i mean my vin number shows original petrol engine engine, they wont accept the engine change for the coc, so it would be handy if the new vin number shows that its a diesel engine so they will issue me a certificate de conformitie so i can get french papers
 
What do the French authorities require to see when you register it for COC?

If they will accept the V5 details then fine changing it over to diesel and updating the engine no. (it should have been anyway) will sort this out for you.

If, and I suspect they do, they want to see the manufacturers documentation, which it sounds like you were trying to get from LR France, then they are never going to update their records to say that VIN was originally diesel, that would be like changing history - sometimes it happens, but I don't think it will in this case.
 
well the v5 does already show that its diesel and its got the correct engine number but when landrover france put the original vin number in, it obviously comes up with petrol engine, which they will not accept unless i go to a government agency and get charged 1000E per test (potentially several tests) to say that the engine conforms, even though it was a landrover designed retrofit engine! Tho to be honest, even if I do change the vin number, landrover will probly still not accept the changes as its not the original engine, maybe if the vin changes they will be ok if i can prove that it was fitted by landrover, which it probably wont. I have phoned the heritage centre and customer relations and homolagtion department but landrover dont want to touch it. Still scratching my head about how to proceed, might just have to take it back and sell it!
 
yes that does seem to be a plan though i wont get away with it for long, also i presumed i good get the french mot but cant without certificate of conformitie and my uk one ran out yesterday aaarrrgggh
 
Can't you just drop a petrol engine in it until you get it all registered.

Then when on frog plates, put your diesel lump back in?

Changing the VIN would probably have the whole lot confiscated.

Gra.
 
yes that would work i suppose if i could find a petrol engine, might cause probs in the future if i had to go for an mot out here or had to make an insurance claim....
 
Engine mods are a big no-no in France which is why you're having trouble. Even though it's a LR engine, possibly destined for the same type of vehicle as it's in (i.e. you've not dropped a TD5 into a TD chassis), it's not what was originally shipped so you have to go through all the hoops to be legal.

On the other hand, after Saab went bust (they're back in production as of this week!), a chap bought a 9-5 estate with no CoC (the new 9-5 estate never got type approval), got it tested in Germany and the Swedes had to accept that as legal, although they may be less rigid with their bureaucracy than the French.

Sounds horrendously complicated though, and probably involves lawyers.
 
AFAIK you cannot change the VIN, its a unique identifier to the vehicle, hence the business about swapping vins to other vehicles (ie ringing)
 
An option would be to buy a chassis of a diesel defender of the correct type you need that comes with the log book (it should anyway) and rebuild your vehicle onto that chassis. Then register that

Not easy - ANOTHER option would be to buy a logbook and chassis plate... see where this is going - as long as I thought that there was no stolen land rover parts or plates or anything involved...
 
KeepDigging said:
On the other hand, after Saab went bust (they're back in production as of this week!), a chap bought a 9-5 estate with no CoC (the new 9-5 estate never got type approval), got it tested in Germany and the Swedes had to accept that as legal, although they may be less rigid with their bureaucracy than the French.

Sounds horrendously complicated though, and probably involves lawyers.
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No not complicated at all, I did mention this in the other thread, France has no choice whether they like it or not they have to register it, a slight snag is that it wou,d have to havehada new MOT not older than 2 months and if they refuse then you can drag them into the European courts for it.

We in Belgium have just been through this not so long ago and Belgium got slapped wrists for monopolizing the CoC sytem and refusing registrations of foreign cars from other EU states.

I plan to cause as much greif as I an if theytry to stop me doing what I want within European law.
 
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