Great write-up. The new Defender is also a big miss for me. Nothing remotely appealing it at all, and I've been a LR fan for 50 years. I also find it one of the strangest looking vehicles on the road. The 90 isn't too bad, but the 110 is hideous. Very sad to see what's become of Landrover.

I was reading a LR mag I bought when I was in the UK in December. There was an interview with a guy who'd worked for the company for 40 something years. When he retired he went back as a consultant for a while, but he left for good when the new owners told him they weren't at all interested in the brand's history, that they simply didn't care.

Have you actually driven one, to come to this conclusion?

l agree that the 90 looks better than the 110, although most buyers round here seem to go for the larger version.

Bizarrely the 130 seems to work better than the 110

lightning said:

Have you actually driven one, to come to this conclusion?

l agree that the 90 looks better than the 110, although most buyers round here seem to go for the larger version.

Bizarrely the 130 seems to work better than the 110

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I have not. I don't need to drive one to judge its looks. I'm sure they're really nice to drive, though.

l like the looks of mine from every angle except the front. l thought a larger grille like the old Defender would have looked better. But that's exactly what's been done on the new Octa and l don't like it at all.

Let's face it, nothing is going to match the look of the old Defender, not the new Defender, the Grenadier, the Land Cruiser they're all superb vehicles but Land Rover got it so right with the old model Defender that nothing else really comes close.

The other thing l like about the old model Defender is, everything is there for purpose. There will never be another like it that's for sure.

The important thing is that we're each happy with what we drive. There are people that do things to pick-up trucks in North America that I will never understand, but if they like it that's all that matters. There will be lots of people who wouldn't want anything to do with my Defender (but I'd never stoop so low as to talk to any of them).