YD, your diplomacy never fails to amaze me, you really are my hero anyway, i did have the gorm to study profiles, and might just pickout certain members, i will be looking for a yellow disco with the driver holding a nice hot coffee saying welcome piggo let me buy you some goodiesthis i will not deny gilly but i was merely pointing out that if a bloke you have never met before is looking for you at a 4x4 show and you say "let's just say if you my 90, you won't miss it" the words haystack and needle spring to mind and not neccesarily in that order