pressbrake said:
I build my cages to exceed regs, and be beaten up every weekend on challenges or go on expeditions with ham fisted drivers
Down side is I only supply and FIT so I know they are not held on with pigeon ****, problem is Im in essex and miles away from anyone so not viable for 99% of people on this forum
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Email sent.
 
pressbrake said:
I build my cages to exceed regs, and be beaten up every weekend on challenges or go on expeditions with ham fisted drivers
Down side is I only supply and FIT so I know they are not held on with pigeon ****, problem is Im in essex and miles away from anyone so not viable for 99% of people on this forum
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And at some point next year I am hoping to get you to build me a cage...
 
ER1C said:
@ 1.21 that looks like an arm hanging out of the back.. were there people in the back ?

Thanks for posting that video and it puts it into perspective... The hill didnt seem too bad but as is always the way..
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Its a leg :eek:
Watched this clip ages ago and one of the comments claimed to be from the driver. Said he had no belt on and got chucked around but no serious injuries???
Apparently the front screen pillar collapsed and if he had been belted he would have had a flat gooey head.

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pressbrake said:
I build my cages to exceed regs, and be beaten up every weekend on challenges or go on expeditions with ham fisted drivers
Down side is I only supply and FIT so I know they are not held on with pigeon ****, problem is Im in essex and miles away from anyone so not viable for 99% of people on this forum
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Interesting :)

I have seen your rear cross members and have read the feedback etc from people on here, so i would be interested in a quote as well.

Can you post some pictures of your cage designs?

Rough price for a full 90 cage?

Thanks
 
That is why I don't like the 'fender, there is a reason they can't sell them in the US. They failed every rollover test they have. Even those with the factory fit cages only got through by the skin of their teeth. They aren't safe to use on the road without a cage. Offroad, it is your own funeral.
 
BIG_GINGA_BEARD said:
Interesting :)

I have seen your rear cross members and have read the feedback etc from people on here, so i would be interested in a quote as well.

Can you post some pictures of your cage designs?

Rough price for a full 90 cage?

Thanks
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I dont have fixed designs so you can have what you want;), I think there is some pics on d4x4 forum floating about
 
Bix said:
That is why I don't like the 'fender, there is a reason they can't sell them in the US. They failed every rollover test they have. Even those with the factory fit cages only got through by the skin of their teeth. They aren't safe to use on the road without a cage. Offroad, it is your own funeral.
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Oh right that would be why NAS on a defender stands for North American Spec, then. Of course you only call em that if you were selling em to the russian :doh:

Some people dun't arf talk some ****e.
 
Bix said:
That is why I don't like the 'fender, there is a reason they can't sell them in the US. They failed every rollover test they have. Even those with the factory fit cages only got through by the skin of their teeth. They aren't safe to use on the road without a cage. Offroad, it is your own funeral.
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What bollox. You have to be doing something really daft to roll a standard Defender on the road. I have had mine leaning over way past 30 degrees on a side slope without any drama at all. It is only on modified Defenders with poorly done suspension lifts that you have any problems on the road. Even off road I have never had any scares.
 
Bix said:
That is why I don't like the 'fender, there is a reason they can't sell them in the US. They failed every rollover test they have. Even those with the factory fit cages only got through by the skin of their teeth. They aren't safe to use on the road without a cage. Offroad, it is your own funeral.
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Yawn, back to your code reader.
 
pressbrake said:
I dont have fixed designs so you can have what you want;), I think there is some pics on d4x4 forum floating about
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I will have a peruse then ;)

Bix said:
That is why I don't like the 'fender, there is a reason they can't sell them in the US. They failed every rollover test they have. Even those with the factory fit cages only got through by the skin of their teeth. They aren't safe to use on the road without a cage. Offroad, it is your own funeral.
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Ah there is always one int there :doh:
 
Bix said:
That is why I don't like the 'fender, there is a reason they can't sell them in the US. They failed every rollover test they have. Even those with the factory fit cages only got through by the skin of their teeth. They aren't safe to use on the road without a cage. Offroad, it is your own funeral.
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Absolute bollox.

If you stick a reckless fool behind the controls an aeroplane, they stand a good chance of ending up as mincemeat.

Solution = if you are a reckless oaf, stay away from the controls of aeroplanes. Everyone else is green to go.

Just because cars these days are built to be as pratfall-lemming-proof as possible doesn't mean that everyone on the road is therefore a witless oaf. It just means that natural selection is being interfered with and that the daft are then able to breed. This is bad.
 
redhand said:
Oh right that would be why NAS on a defender stands for North American Spec, then. Of course you only call em that if you were selling em to the russian :doh:

Some people dun't arf talk some ****e.
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Yeah, for 3 or 4 years in the early 90s. Since they every other marquee has made strides to improve the safety of their vehicles. Landy decided "meh, just don't sell it where it needs to be safe." I've been in two 'Fenders that fell over, both were lifted as is the norm (never been in an unmolested example), but both suffered quite large roof displacement. I'd rather not take the risk for the cost of a few hundred quid for a cage.
 
Bix said:
Yeah, for 3 or 4 years in the early 90s. Since they every other marquee has made strides to improve the safety of their vehicles. Landy decided "meh, just don't sell it where it needs to be safe." I've been in two 'Fenders that fell over, both were lifted as is the norm (never been in an unmolested example), but both suffered quite large roof displacement. I'd rather not take the risk for the cost of a few hundred quid for a cage.
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erm the "norm is unlifted" that's like saying I "had a nova and stuck a nitrous kit on it. went like buggery but the brakes were ****.. :confused:
 
Bix said:
Yeah, for 3 or 4 years in the early 90s. Since they every other marquee has made strides to improve the safety of their vehicles. Landy decided "meh, just don't sell it where it needs to be safe." I've been in two 'Fenders that fell over, both were lifted as is the norm (never been in an unmolested example), but both suffered quite large roof displacement. I'd rather not take the risk for the cost of a few hundred quid for a cage.
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I think you will find that most Defenders have not been lifted, the lifted ones are the minority. You were unlucky to be in a vehicle with someone that: A) Doesn't know how to do a lift mod correctly & B) Doesn't know how to drive a badly lifted Defender.
 
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