Ive had dry diffs from the factory, bodys not bolted onto the chassis properly(read at all), dodgy wiring, speedos broke.....and these all get pdi by the rental company too!
yellow90
Banned
I used to dismantle certtian parts of brand new ones , the arrived on a truck with no number plates on them ......
I don't know how thorough your PDI check is , a lot of PDI checks I have seen has just been the basics , lights ,seatbelts ect .....not removing wheels to check wing brackets, or lift carpets to find rusted in metal shavings
in all honesty they keep selling but I have no idea why , compare a brand new defender in cost and general use and confort compared to such as the Nissan navara for example
parts are just as expencive for both nowadays although the defender is cheaper in general
but the cost of a brand new defender is silly for what you get , yes they are basic and always have been, but the price tag is horrendous
not against defenders in general by the way I own a 1993 V8 and a 2004 TD5 and wouldent change them for the world , the reason I dislike the new ones is both have mine have cost me £10,000 or so together, compare that to a new transit engine one
yellow90
Banned
stutab
Well-Known Member
I may have missed this but hear goes.
There is a small cable linked to the handbrake on the trailer that will apply the trailer brakes if the trailer becomes detached from the towing vehicle. This should be attached to the chassis of the vehicle or a fixed point. That way when this happens the trailer will stop. I am guessing hear but hands up who thinks that these people had it looped around the tow ball thus rendering it useless.
There is a small cable linked to the handbrake on the trailer that will apply the trailer brakes if the trailer becomes detached from the towing vehicle. This should be attached to the chassis of the vehicle or a fixed point. That way when this happens the trailer will stop. I am guessing hear but hands up who thinks that these people had it looped around the tow ball thus rendering it useless.
yellow90
Banned
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Silverlandy
3.5efi's other half
A detachable towbar on the ultimate towing 4x4. WHY???
Surely not for looks?
Surely not for looks?
yellow90
Banned
id hazard a guess at yes , cant think why else?
you can understand more on the range rover , evoques and freelanders
but on a disco that's just stupid !
Silverlandy
3.5efi's other half
yellow90
Banned
Bloody is. Mine is big and ugly. I like it that way
haha what landy u got?
Silverlandy
3.5efi's other half
D2 facelift
yellow90
Banned
D2 facelift
ah nice choice !
wouldent mind one of them myself , I think they are one of the best looking to ever come off L/R production line
suew
Well-Known Member
I said that earlier, it was my first thought. However if you read the link they did have the break away attached and it didn't come off with the tow bar and therefore should have pulled the brakes on.
Apparently that a question for the trailer manufacturer they are saying, however its possibly poor servicing.
Hardly the point though in this case. The dammed tow bar shouldn't have come off
50 pence
New Member
This is absolutely shocking reading !. The best " we " can do is spread the word around as many of our fellow LR drivers as possible about the issue.
I'm going this morning to tell my farmer neighbour as i know he pulles two horses weekly with a D3 using a detachable tow bar.
I'm going this morning to tell my farmer neighbour as i know he pulles two horses weekly with a D3 using a detachable tow bar.
suew
Well-Known Member
I've been thinking about this, always a dangerous thing
They say the trailer overtook the car suggesting it was a downhill stretch of road, therefore no drag on the towbar. If the trailer brakes were not working well the trailer could actually have been pushing the car. Interesting time for a towbar to fail was all I was thinking.
Also got to thinking about whether breakaway cables work if the trailer somehow is in front of the attachment point rather than pulling back on it. Will be checking my Ifor next time I remember
Also how was it loaded, mine has enough nose weight to mean the front would drop if it came unhitched, not overtake the Landy
Always thinking of stuff to make towing mine safer
They say the trailer overtook the car suggesting it was a downhill stretch of road, therefore no drag on the towbar. If the trailer brakes were not working well the trailer could actually have been pushing the car. Interesting time for a towbar to fail was all I was thinking.
Also got to thinking about whether breakaway cables work if the trailer somehow is in front of the attachment point rather than pulling back on it. Will be checking my Ifor next time I remember
Also how was it loaded, mine has enough nose weight to mean the front would drop if it came unhitched, not overtake the Landy
Always thinking of stuff to make towing mine safer
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blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
At any reasonable speed trailer brakes pulled on by a breakaway aren't likely to stop a trailer before it hits something or leaves the road though you'd hope they'd work enough to stop the bloody thing overtaking
Can't quite believe that it's advised for occasional towing only.....that's like selling a vehicle with crap brakes and advising that you don't go downhill too often.
Nose weight might be an issue but the safety margin should be well within a vehicle being drivable with a badly loaded trailer
Can't quite believe that it's advised for occasional towing only.....that's like selling a vehicle with crap brakes and advising that you don't go downhill too often.
Nose weight might be an issue but the safety margin should be well within a vehicle being drivable with a badly loaded trailer
Silverlandy
3.5efi's other half
Towing ponies is stressful enough, I always check everything at least twice, plus trailer floor every time I go out, etc. The words "detachable tow bar" shouldn't even feature, Christ I'd be getting out every bloody mile to check it!!!
blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
I've been thinking about this, always a dangerous thing
They say the trailer overtook the car suggesting it was a downhill stretch of road, therefore no drag on the towbar. If the trailer brakes were not working well the trailer could actually have been pushing the car. Interesting time for a towbar to fail was all I was thinking.
Also got to thinking about whether breakaway cables work if the trailer somehow is in front of the attachment point rather than pulling back on it. Will be checking my Ifor next time I remember
Also how was it loaded, mine has enough nose weight to mean the front would drop if it came unhitched, not overtake the Landy
Always thinking of stuff to make towing mine safer
The trailer might have past them as they braked which is a pretty instinctive thing to do and a vehicle will stop faster than a loaded trailer.
Breakaway cable should work when the cable goes taught whether it's behind, to the side or pushing it's way through the boot
srtgray
New Member
It depends how the word "occasional" is defined. I'd say once a week was occasional, as opposed to a work vehicle pulling a loaded trailer every day.
That said if I were towing horses I'd want something permanent, if only because they were living creatures.
