suew · Jul 10, 2014

Dont know if this has been discussed before but there have been a few accidents caused by the failure of these reported on the horse forums recently.

Just thought it was worth a mention, particularly to the horsey folk

This is the latest

https://www.facebook.com/CamiltyEqu...5916785865334/251483151642030/?type=1&theater

http://landroverhell.com/article/4193/tow-bar-on-the-discovery-3

Saltlick · Jul 10, 2014

Far canal....

That's BAD. What the hell are JLR playing at with not issueing a recall?

suew · Jul 10, 2014

No idea, luckily I dont have a Disco, I trust my proper Landy

defender11069 · Jul 10, 2014

very lucky could have ended up as a big tub of glue..

suew · Jul 10, 2014

defender11069 said:
very lucky could have ended up as a big tub of glue..

Or a burger

Not very good customer service from Land Rover though

Datatek · Jul 10, 2014

Horrendous, and LR don't seem to give a ****. Just need it to happen in the USA, then it will cost them big time.

suew · Jul 10, 2014

Doubt if the insurance companies in this country will be too pleased either.

Just lucky no one appears to have been injured yet.

One point which is worth noting, for the trailers to run away the break away cables cant have brought the brakes on.

Just shows you shouldn't connect the breakaway to the tow bar, I see it done regularly

yellow90 · Jul 10, 2014

see now this is a good reason to post a facebook link

unfortunately usally all we get is ****e !

land rover are going badly downhill and will soon disappear is this carries on , personally I couldent care as I think the company died a long time ago , they only make ****e now and the build quality is shocking

this is the latest in a whole host of screw ups for a questionable company as it is

suew · Jul 10, 2014

yellow90 said:
see now this is a good reason to post a facebook link

unfortunately usally all we get is ****e !

Thank you

Not often my post are useful

Bump · Jul 10, 2014

Very common problem with them - loads of cases reported... Although i think the weight limit is a lot lower on the detachable so they were probably over anyway...

suew · Jul 10, 2014

Bump said:
Very common problem with them - loads of cases reported... Although i think the weight limit is a lot lower on the detachable so they were probably over anyway...

You mean they factory fitted towbars not capable of pull the max weight the car is allowed to

Did they tell people

Very poor given that a lot of people buy Discos to pull livestock and other heavy trailers

suew · Jul 10, 2014

Actually I looked this up, they are rated at 3.5 tonnes, same as the non detachable ones

defender11069 · Jul 11, 2014

I wouldn't. Trust any thing that's just hold on with one pin any way

yellow90 · Jul 11, 2014

defender11069 said:
I wouldn't. Trust any thing that's just hold on with one pin any way

funny thing is a lot of mayjor applications have just one pin ! machine buckets and arms, 5th wheel pins on lorry trailers, some defender towhitches that are adjustable have one pin

dosent mean I like any of them mind lol

owl · Jul 11, 2014

They arn't held in with a pin. The hitch is a V shape apex at the top, this fits into a socket and when it gets to the top of the socket a bolt (a bit like a yale lock) shoots out into a slot in the chassis. Then this is locked in position by a rotating lock barrel in the hitch and a key you can remove.
I have seen plenty of chassis worn away where the lock bolt rubs in the chassis slot. unfortuantly this is part of the chassis and can't be renewed.
I haven't had any in at work that have fallen out but have seen a few very loose. I would stick with the fixed drop plate job.

Discovery2TD5 · Jul 11, 2014

suew said:
No idea, luckily I dont have a Disco, I trust my proper Landy

You take that back Sue. A Disco is a proper Landy, well D1 & 2 anyway!

Datatek · Jul 11, 2014

yellow90 said:
see now this is a good reason to post a facebook link

unfortunately usally all we get is ****e !

land rover are going badly downhill and will soon disappear is this carries on , personally I couldent care as I think the company died a long time ago , they only make ****e now and the build quality is shocking

this is the latest in a whole host of screw ups for a questionable company as it is

Actually, since TATA took over, build quality seems to be on the up. the LR4 Disco came in the J D Power top 10 for reliability if I remember rightly.

disco147 · Jul 11, 2014

jlr do state, and sales should specify, that those detachable tow bars are not meant for regular towing and a proper un-detachable tow pack should be fitted to the car!

yellow90 · Jul 11, 2014

Datatek said:
Actually, since TATA took over, build quality seems to be on the up. the LR4 Disco came in the J D Power top 10 for reliability if I remember rightly.

in the case of defenders I don't belive this rings true, not sure about others but there are a lot of unhappy people on the site that link was on

I used to work on brand new defenders while working for a roll cage company

bolts were loose/missing

metal filings from holes drilled were left there and rusted into the white paintwork ( inside)

brackets such as lower wing supports loose/missing

interior panels badly cut/fitted

on some vehicles things like interior lights were not working and air intake connections hanging off

could list a lot more !

utter ****e

owl · Jul 12, 2014

yellow90 said:
in the case of defenders I don't belive this rings true, not sure about others but there are a lot of unhappy people on the site that link was on

I used to work on brand new defenders while working for a roll cage company

bolts were loose/missing

metal filings from holes drilled were left there and rusted into the white paintwork ( inside)

brackets such as lower wing supports loose/missing

interior panels badly cut/fitted

on some vehicles things like interior lights were not working and air intake connections hanging off

could list a lot more !

utter ****e

I PDI new Defenders and do warranty work on them and I don't see any of the things on your list. Yes we get the odd issue but that is what a PDI is for. They might be old fashioned but but you have to ask why do they keep selling.

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