Elmur Thud said:
I’ve only had hydraulic air suspension on Citroen cars which was awsome but costly and troublesome.
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Citroen suspension is purely hydraulic not air and runs on oil (LHM fluid) . Some of the bigger cars SM/DS had quite a complicated system but the BX had a very simple and reliable system which was very cheap to maintain. The system was considered that good that it was adopted by Rolls royce and Bentley.
 
It was on coils when I bought it and I informed the insurance company then.

I remember the green luminous fluid from my old Citroen’s. Only things that went wrong really was corroded pipes. Cheap to buy and fit. But mega expensive for dealerships to fit.
 
brianconwy said:
Jordan?

Air springs have two tricks - one is to level the car while towing and the other is two inches extra height off road. We got rid of our horse trailer and we towed our caravan to Spain and left it there, so we don't need these tricks. Ignore comments about floating on air.
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My apologies in advance for my apparent rudeness but you and others who are bastadising well enhanced D2s are IMO a shame for this brilliant modell and simply dont deserve to own one... it's my oppinion and the result of passion.

Off course that somebody who puts it this way doesnt know exactly what the SLS can do... it has actually 4 tricks, one you seem to ot know is named "extended mode" which is automatic and requires no input from the driver, it inflates the bags when the body is grounded so to make the rear wheels to spin and that's managed by the SLABS ECU based on wheel speed inputs... another trick is that you can lower the rear if only few mms are too much to enter into a garage, and that's not neglectable either... ... there are coil fitted modells from factory which is an option to buy instead of ''castrating" a well enhanced one or instead a Discovery Series II( as it's officially named) you should have bought a Land Rover Series II as to not bother with new age technology. Sorry again cos i'm such enthusiast and real fan of the top spec D2s which unfortunately are on the way to extinction due to such attitudes :( So all i'm doing is to manifest against "downgrading" nice vehicles rather than buy a rudimentary one from the beginning that's all
 
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. You are obviously an enthusiast of the Discovery 2. I commend that. However I have already owned numerous series 1's 2', 3's in both long wheelbase and short also Range Rover and Defender old and new. This is my first foray into the Discovery territory and I like it very much but as I said it came with these enhancements disconnected when I bought it and I don't have massive funds to splash out so I wont be replacing them. I have kept this one from the scrap yard by spending 17 full days replacing steering pipes radiators fans spring (front) shocks, brakes and chassis parts amongst other things. Next is head lining and sunroofs so I consider myself to an enthusiast who is happy to have a slightly modded version of your ideal Discovery 2.
 
As long as you bought it like that you are not included into my previous statements, i'm against those who are advertising factory fitted SLS or ACE conversions as being good moves instead of protecting the modell as to remain with all the enhancements fitted in factory cos IMO when top spec D2's appeared on the market they were the best and nicest vehicles in theyr's category(and they still are :)) ... i'm kind of D2's greenpeace militant... don't rip off it's "leaves", save it from extinction !!! :cool:
 
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sierrafery said:
As long as you bought it like that you are not included into my previous statements, i'm against those who are advertising factory fitted SLS or ACE conversions as being good moves instead of protecting the modell as to remain with all the enhancements fitted in factory cos IMO when top spec D2's appeared on the market they were the best and nicest vehicles in theyr's category(and they still are :)) ... i'm kind of D2's greenpeace militant... don't rip off it's "leaves", save it from extinction !!! :cool:
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So what about those who remove their EGR and Cats etc.? As far as I am concerned its their business but such changes mean the car is not strictly legal. I would rather Land Rover had spent the money they had used on air suspension, on improving the shoddy build quality.
 
IMO removing EGRs and CATs are improvements not downgrades cos the engine runs better and cleaner without them while nobody can say sincerely that the ride is better on coils than on air... eventually some will say that it's the same even though the self levelling, off-road mode and extended modes are missing... also the self levelling is not only for towing, it has to do with load carying too, put 3 heavy guys on the back seat and fill the boot with sandstone to the accepted limit in one on coils and other on air then compare how they look, the SLS can accept 200kg more on the rear

D2 weights.jpg
 
Regardless of anyone's opinion those changes mean the car isn't road legal, but I don't worry about it because its up to the owner. If I wanted to carry sandstone then something like a hilux would be more suitable. If I am ever going to drive down to the South of Spain again I know I won't have to worry about coils going wrong but inflatable springs are a different story. Each to their own.
 
Catalytic converters fitted to vehicles after a certain date ( I think it might be around 2001 ) must be replaced with another converter that has EU type approval. I recently had to change one on my daughters 2003 car and the cheaper ones with type approval couldn't be used. They even ask for your registration. Even though they are probably very similar they charge more for the type approved ones. MOT tests aren't proof that a car is road legal.
 
sierrafery said:
I presume that on coils it would have been on the bump stops :oops:
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According to your weight table above the difference in rear weight carrying is only 80kg. Again if I wanted a load carrier a pickup truck is the way to go. Not sure what springs they have though.
 
brianconwy said:
According to your weight table above the difference in rear weight carrying is only 80kg. Again if I wanted a load carrier a pickup truck is the way to go. Not sure what springs they have though.
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Usually cart springs
 
Interceptorxj said:
Citroen suspension is purely hydraulic not air and runs on oil (LHM fluid) . Some of the bigger cars SM/DS had quite a complicated system but the BX had a very simple and reliable system which was very cheap to maintain. The system was considered that good that it was adopted by Rolls royce and Bentley.
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It's not you know. That's why it's called 'hydropneumatic' and not 'hydraulic'.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/citroen-hydropneumatic-suspension-explained-49954.html
 
kevstar said:
Great systems we had a few citroen bx's gti & a diesel fugly looking things though great to drive
much better that the hydro elastic & hydragas from BMC although the MG metro was a fun car
far better to rip the engine & box out an re-home it into a mini ahh they were the days :Dlol
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Which is exactly what I did! Sold it recently, got £1000 for it in a terrible state, mind you they got the original engine and box too. Could have sold it over and over again!
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This is what it was like in its prime went like sh!t off a polished shovel!:D:D:D:D:D
 
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