This thread is not about HDC......

Heres davethebb in his disco1 auto with no HDC and no trick diffs sitting at the top of a tricky very steep gravel track/muddy slope....he selects low and 2nd as suggested, drives over the edge....davethebb has been given top advice by internet experts not to use the brakes and just to use engine braking.....the engine speed starts to rise...the downhill speed starts to rise....faster...it'll be fine....they said no brakes......over a bump into a rut...bit of a crossaxle .....a couple of wheels go light and lose grip which means davethebb basically now has no engine braking at all...hes away...faster faster ....usually a slide sideways...crash....upside down and it all happens about as quick as you read it.

What might have helped davethebb.....other than a lecture on the wonders of HDC

EeEk said:

This thread is not about HDC......

Heres davethebb in his disco1 auto with no HDC and no trick diffs sitting at the top of a tricky very steep gravel track/muddy slope....he selects low and 2nd as suggested, drives over the edge....davethebb has been given top advice by internet experts not to use the brakes and just to use engine braking.....the engine speed starts to rise...the downhill speed starts to rise....faster...it'll be fine....they said no brakes......over a bump into a rut...bit of a crossaxle .....a couple of wheels go light and lose grip which means davethebb basically now has no engine braking at all...hes away...faster faster ....usually a slide sideways...crash....upside down and it all happens about as quick as you read it.

What might have helped davethebb.....other than a lecture on the wonders of HDC

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Douche

EeEk said:

This thread is not about HDC......

Heres davethebb in his disco1 auto with no HDC and no trick diffs sitting at the top of a tricky very steep gravel track/muddy slope....he selects low and 2nd as suggested, drives over the edge....davethebb has been given top advice by internet experts not to use the brakes and just to use engine braking.....the engine speed starts to rise...the downhill speed starts to rise....faster...it'll be fine....they said no brakes......over a bump into a rut...bit of a crossaxle .....a couple of wheels go light and lose grip which means davethebb basically now has no engine braking at all...hes away...faster faster ....usually a slide sideways...crash....upside down and it all happens about as quick as you read it.

What might have helped davethebb.....other than a lecture on the wonders of HDC

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No, READ the FECKIN Thread from start to finish and no "I can't be bothered to do that" sh!t.
Nowhere did ANYONE say, "don't use brakes".
You really are an utter w@nker.
Even under engine braking you will, of course, sometimes, in fact often, need to use the brakes gently and if you lock the brakes up and the truck starts to slide, take your foot off the brakes and maybe even accelerate a bit to regain steering control.

OP wasn't asking for advice about how to descend a slippery slope in a 4x4 he was asking purely about the availability of engine braking with his truck.
And that question got answered despite your off point remarks.
If he HAD asked about how to brake under these circumstances I'm sure we would have told him, about cadence braking, keeping his wheels straight etc etc.
BUT HE DIDN'T.

So stick your inferiority complex up your ass and shut the fuck up.

Just one final point on all this.
If going downhill in an automatic in extremely skiddy conditions such as ice, then it is better to assume you will skid and thus to shove it in neutral.
If you don't do this then the engine braking can lead to loss of steering control, through sort of locking up the wheels.
If you have ever done skidpan training you'll know that the first thing they teach you is, if in a skid, stand on the clutch and keep your foot there. Any wheel that locks up will slide in whatever direction it was going in at the time. You can only steer if the wheel is free to turn. And engine braking is still braking and there are times when you don't want even that amount of braking.
This happened unexpectedly to me in my AUTOMATIC D2 a couple of years ago in Yorkshire one Christmas. As I was fighting to regain steering control I shouted at my wife to put it in neutral. The second she did that I regained control.
I have posted about this elsewhere on this forum, and even wrote about it to LRM who published the letter in its entirety.

So if this was the point that @EeEk was trying to make then, yes, sometimes you do just need brakes and no engine braking. But he could have made the point clearer.
Normally things aren't that bad, which is why engine braking is recommended by all and sundry from Land Rover themselves to the peeps who run off road driving courses.
In my case it was ice hidden by snow on an ungritted road, which was steep with an S bend in it.

Have we exhausted the topic now?