Stock_90_TD5_SW

Active Member

• Jun 8, 2019

• #1

Guys, there is this youtube video where a couple took their heavy 130 to Kyrgyzstan

and after hitting a large pothole at 30 kmh (the incident is shown at 4:30 - some 30 seconds), had the truck's swivel housing broken in two.

From the beginning they were naming a major cause being the large tires (285/75) and spacers. The truck is heavy and that does make sense.

My question is, is this a problem for mostly very heavy trucks? I am planning on installing 285/75 tires on my purely town driven D90 for looks. People here usually say that spacers will wear out the bearing several times faster and I'm prepared to bear that cost to get that look (ashamed). But after seeing this video I started to think that maybe the burden is not just on the bearing but the whole outer axle? My truck is usually empty (so under 2t). Is this a real problem only for heavy-loaded trucks or light ones as well? THANKS!!!

 

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Colthebrummie

Well-Known Member

• Jun 8, 2019

• #2

Could be that the swivel had a casting fault which weakened it and the addition of a spacer caused it to fail at the weak point.

Col

 

Oldseadog

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• Jun 8, 2019

• #3

Spacers fek up everything, as the axles are not designed to take them and the huge amout of extra, unwarranted stress generated by the offset.
The stub axle was probably sitting inside the spacen which transferred all of the stresses to the ball casing.

 

marjon

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Full Member

• Jun 8, 2019

• #4

I just love the “it’s broke let’s open some wine”

And where else would you find somebody to weld up a swivel
Spacers and extra stress probably didn’t help the situation, but hey they seemed to take it in their stride that’s what an adventure is all about. If your easily stressed don’t try it. Things go wrong

J

 

bankz5152

Well-Known Member

• Jun 8, 2019

• #5

Ive got 30mm hubcentric spacers + 285/75 tyres and drive 300 - 400 miles a week for work. Through country lanes and motorway.

Its also driven hard off road.

Ive done almost 30k miles since then including 3 trips to Marquenterre, Barcelona, Pryenees, Andorra. Many laned around thr UK, Sailsbury kore times than I can count!

Never had an issue caused by spacers. Some diff breakages caused by a lead foot and alot of power, tyres could have played a part there.

Its also got a full cage, hd sliders, winch bumper etc... and often has a 200kgs+ in the boot

 

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neilly

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• Jun 8, 2019

• #6

In the repair video , there is the implication that a recall was done on the swivels and the parts they had fitted did not have part numbers stamped on them and were thinner wall section.

Cheers

 

Wimblowdriver

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• Jun 8, 2019

• #7

There was a safety recall affecting some front axles around 2012 / 2013. I think but not certain that this was on some vehicles produced in South Africa. I have a copy of the recall notice somewhere. The fix was welding extra plates in to beef the suspension / axle up.

 

Hippo

Lord Hippo

• Jun 9, 2019

• #8

Snow is made out of water. Could be the reason why the wheel fell'd oft. It got wet.

 

Oldseadog

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• Jun 9, 2019

• #9

Hippo said:

Snow is made out of water. Could be the reason why the wheel fell'd oft. It got wet.

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Hippypotster me old mate, it isn't a Gaylander!!
Please don't confuse the outstanding quality and original build of the magnificent Tratter with that of a norribubble, hairdressers limo, where the doors drop off if it gets slightly damp!
Just because some people decide that they know better than the wonderful original design team, and manage to break things by adding unsuitable bits, which break other bits because they were not made to be altered or modified!!
Rant over ...

 

neilly

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• Jun 9, 2019

• #10

Oldseadog said:

they were not made to be altered or modified!!

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Strange thing is that LR themselves seemed to iike the idea of modifying them as well. They got a whole department doing it.

Cheers