suew · Dec 22, 2012

I used to do 000's of miles, all over the country taking my daughter showing.

Since our show cob got older and her new horse, aptly nicknamed "The Beast" was too balmy and stressy, we have only been competing locally.

Therefore when I replaced the Disco last year it was with something which would do the job and I could have as my toy

A 20 year old Defender which only has 75,000 miles on the clock and is being looked after ( I am even learning to so the servicing myself)

Today she dropped the bombshell that she thinks "The Beast" is ready to start competing properly.

Now I have a few months to work out how to accomplish this. The trailer is nearly new so thats not a problem. But will the Landy stand up to this kind of mileage. Do I even want to try. I have the best breakdown cover plus NFU cover to recover the horses and trailer if necessary but I dont want to need it.

In the old days Yorkshire to Keysoe (Bedfordshire I think) was the furthest we did regularly.

Any thoughts, do I have to part with my Landy, I really really dont want to. I already have two cars so I cant afford a third.

disco147 · Dec 22, 2012

Personally I think only you can decide that!
How reliable has it been so far???
How many miles do you do currently? enough to justify saying its reliable?
Does it have a good service history?

Engine wise at 75k genuine miles I would be very surprised if you have any major component failures but there's always consumables that could start wearing quickly/all at once!

If you decide to keep it then it may be worth going through all the consumables and checking/replacing as nessecary if your not confident in its reliability...

ricc · Dec 22, 2012

the fender will get there eventually... whether you can stick the seats and the general driving experience on longer runs is a question only you can answer.... youve had a disco so know how much more civilised they are on a trip.

reliability wise there aint a lot of difference tween a fender and a disco of similar age and condition

personally id flog the rattle box and look for a disco.

Trewey · Dec 22, 2012

ricc said:
the fender will get there

personally id flog the icon and look for a rust box.

corrected for accuracy.

suew · Dec 22, 2012

Thank you

disco147 said:
Personally I think only you can decide that!
How reliable has it been so far??? Very and it has just passed its MOT
How many miles do you do currently? enough to justify saying its reliable? About 500 in the 6 months I have owned her, very reliable so far [/I]
Does it have a good service history? Have a service history but its not complete, she had a new timing belt when I bought her and a service
Engine wise at 75k genuine miles I would be very surprised if you have any major component failures but there's always consumables that could start wearing quickly/all at once!

If you decide to keep it then it may be worth going through all the consumables and checking/replacing as nessecary if your not confident in its reliability...

What are consumables ?????

ricc said:

the fender will get there eventually... whether you can stick the seats and the general driving experience on longer runs is a question only you can answer.... youve had a disco so know how much more civilised they are on a trip. Yes Disco is more comfortable but it was not very reliable. My old 90 was better but I didn't tow horses on long trips with it
reliability wise there aint a lot of difference tween a fender and a disco of similar age and condition Thats whats worrying me, my old Disco was shocking and it wasn't as old as my Defender.
personally id flog the rattle box and look for a disco.

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No couldn't cope with that again. Hate to say it but if the Defender goes it would have to be a Japanese

KSLB · Dec 22, 2012

Sell it and get a hilux! More comfortable and more reliable. Sell the LR onto someone who will put it to better use, it's not built for comfortable motorway miles.

Pikey · Dec 22, 2012

I've just driven the 110 from Glos to Teeside 259miles left at 11am stopped for brekkie at half past then drove to Donacaster to drop some bits off. for PaulD & Bump. had a coffee at Pauls then drove up A1 to Thirsk where I stopped for food. then onto Mintys took me about 10hrs all in inc food stops and getting lost in Rush hr traffic in Donny. probably 7hrs of driving. I felt fine when I got out at the end. Don't know WTF peeps slag em off for. comfy as fook

tacr2man · Dec 22, 2012

If its a tdi defender then its quite capable of dealing with what you want , as from what Ive seen of horse transport a citroen 2cv could achieve the required velocity

ps towed a trailer 1587miles in 39 hours in australia in my 110 perfectly comfortable but admit was a bit tired at the end

ricc · Dec 22, 2012

redhand said:
I've just driven the 110 from Glos to Teeside 259miles left at 11am stopped f 7hrs of driving. I felt fine when I got out at the end. Don't know WTF peeps slag em off for. comfy as fook

thats cause you is a midget

suew · Dec 22, 2012

KSLB said:
Sell it and get a hilux! More comfortable and more reliable. Sell the LR onto someone who will put it to better use, it's not built for comfortable motorway miles.

But I was going to put it to good use. I have been invited on a Green Laning trip between Christmas and New Year, I had also plans for the summer including buying some bling like off road tyres and snorkle

redhand said:
I've just driven the 110 from Glos to Teeside 259miles left at 11am stopped for brekkie at half past then drove to Donacaster to drop some bits off. for PaulD & Bump. had a coffee at Pauls then drove up A1 to Thirsk where I stopped for food. then onto Mintys took me about 10hrs all in inc food stops and getting lost in Rush hr traffic in Donny. probably 7hrs of driving. I felt fine when I got out at the end. Don't know WTF peeps slag em off for. comfy as fook

How old is your Landy? I agree that they are not uncomfortable. My back is terrible after a few hours in the Focus but fine in the Defender. Must say I sometimes get cramp in my clutch foot when I drive in the rush hour.

tacr2man said:
If its a tdi defender then its quite capable of dealing with what you want , as from what Ive seen of horse transport a citroen 2cv could achieve the required velocity

Are you saying we horsey people drive slow

Its true, nothing like horses falling over on corners to destabilize the vehicle.

This is it, its a 1991 J Reg, not sure about the tdi bit.

KSLB · Dec 22, 2012

redhand said:
I've just driven the 110 from Glos to Teeside 259miles left at 11am stopped for brekkie at half past then drove to Donacaster to drop some bits off. for PaulD & Bump. had a coffee at Pauls then drove up A1 to Thirsk where I stopped for food. then onto Mintys took me about 10hrs all in inc food stops and getting lost in Rush hr traffic in Donny. probably 7hrs of driving. I felt fine when I got out at the end. Don't know WTF peeps slag em off for. comfy as fook

I have a 110 as well and it is adequate for long miles. I also have a hilux and I would always choose it over the Defender for towing on a long journey as it is more comfortable. I also have an X5 and I'd choose that over both for long miles without towing. My point was whilst it is capable it's no where near the best for the job he is describing. Out of the three 4x4's I have the Defender is my favourite but I know what it is good for what it is great for and what it is adequate for and towing on motorways it is adequate at best.

Pikey · Dec 22, 2012

ricc said:
thats cause you is a midget

5ft 9" & a bit.. perfect size for a fender.. still got OE seats in it as well. They sit a bit Upright for me. would prefer that they recline a tad more. But no great problem.

Tyres are ****e though 265/75/16 BFG Muds. love em offroad fooking ****e on wet tarmac..

like steeroing a canoe they aquaplane that much..

never had any problems on the 90 and ran Khumo road venturers and Insa Sahara's

suew · Dec 22, 2012

OK before any of you take the ****

Just looked at the picture.

It says Tdi on the side

Pikey · Dec 22, 2012

suew said:
How old is your Landy? I agree that they are not uncomfortable. My back is terrible after a few hours in the Focus but fine in the Defender. Must say I sometimes get cramp in my clutch foot when I drive in the rush hour.

mines 97 Preg 300tdi yours should be a 200tdi. so just as capable

Secret in rush hr is to leave BIG gaps and roll in a low gear to avoid having to use clutch all the time.

This is it, its a 1991 J Reg, not sure about the tdi bit.

warrior · Dec 22, 2012

I have noticed that my 300 tdi 90 isn't fast n just does 60 on the motorway, I did notice that with a car trailer and car in it dint slowdown much,

You could maybe tweak the fuel pump and a Bigger Intercooler would tow better.

Edit

Just realised, did I try sell you some wheels at the blue barn in otley when you had just bought it.

Pikey · Dec 22, 2012

warrior said:
I have noticed that my 300 tdi 90 isn't fast n just does 60 on the motorway, I did notice that with a car trailer and car in it dint slowdown much,

You could maybe tweak the fuel pump and a Bigger Intercooler would tow better.

Fook me I can get 80 (on the clock) outta mine.. frightens the ****e out of me though.. so tend to stick to 60/65

suew · Dec 22, 2012

warrior said:
I have noticed that my 300 tdi 90 isn't fast n just does 60 on the motorway, I did notice that with a car trailer and car in it dint slowdown much,

You could maybe tweak the fuel pump and a Bigger Intercooler would tow better.

Thanks, mine isn't really slow, easily went to 70 on the motorway and as you say trailer doesn't make much difference.

The speed isn't really an issue, stick to 50 with the big trailer anyway. I am just worried about reliability. Dont want to be recovered with the horses, its frightening on the motorway ( I know this because the Disco did it a couple of times)

ricc · Dec 22, 2012

yer fender is basically mechanically the same as an early disco...if youre confident with the one youve got and happy with the comfort aspect its probably best to stick with what youve got.... change it if and when you find problems with it, and you never know the kid might change her mind again in a few months.

warrior · Dec 22, 2012

Did I meet you at the blue barn and tried to sell you some wheels nd tyres, when you First bought yours?

nrgserv · Dec 22, 2012

suew said:
Thank you

What are consumables ?????

No couldn't cope with that again. Hate to say it but if the Defender goes it would have to be a Japanese

stuff that wears out.
belts, tensioners, brake pads, bushes, brushes, universal joints, flexi pipes, clutch, bearings, fluids (engine oil, gear oils for main box, transfer box, axles, swivels, fluid for power steering, water for radiator coolant, windscreen washers, dot 3 or 4 for brake & clutch) bulbs, switches, tyres,
pretty much anything that moves, tho some are more relevant than others.

an i know pretty much nak all about jap stuff.

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