Mim

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So...if a V8 is over/under-revving and generally acting up, one of the possible solutions might be to replace the coolant temperature sensor? Turns out that we ordered a sender rather than a sensor, but what the hell, replace it anyway, right?

Over-zealous boyfriend tightened the (as it turned out different sized) replacement sender to the point where it sheared off. :mad:

So, today he had-at the stump of the sender with a bolt remover (reverse thread-tap thing) with a similar amount of agression. The stump of the sender started to shift and then, CRACK goes the housing. :mad:

So now we have a '96 EFI Discovery with a big thread-tap thinger sticking out of where the coolant sender ought to be and a one inch crack running down to the body of the manifold. And it leaked a little coolant as you might expect. Could anyone suggest the next step please? I assume that it will need welding back up again and re-tapping for a new sender, but could we use epoxy or similar to keep it running in the meantime (without creating an exciting coolant fountain whilst on the M5). We seem to have borked our only mode of transport! :eek:

Any suggestions?

Mim.
 
So...if a V8 is over/under-revving and generally acting up, one of the possible solutions might be to replace the coolant temperature sensor? Turns out that we ordered a sender rather than a sensor, but what the hell, replace it anyway, right?

Over-zealous boyfriend tightened the (as it turned out different sized) replacement sender to the point where it sheared off. :mad:

So, today he had-at the stump of the sender with a bolt remover (reverse thread-tap thing) with a similar amount of agression. The stump of the sender started to shift and then, CRACK goes the housing. :mad:

So now we have a '96 EFI Discovery with a big thread-tap thinger sticking out of where the coolant sender ought to be and a one inch crack running down to the body of the manifold. And it leaked a little coolant as you might expect. Could anyone suggest the next step please? I assume that it will need welding back up again and re-tapping for a new sender, but could we use epoxy or similar to keep it running in the meantime (without creating an exciting coolant fountain whilst on the M5). We seem to have borked our only mode of transport! :eek:

Any suggestions?

Mim.

new inlet manifold should fix that
 
if you were local I could bodge it for you with some specail epoxy but the time it would last would be guesswork. it would bebest to take it off to weld it as cast ally it a bastid to weld so you may as well fit a used one, I expect there are a million out there.

I would look on ebay for somone breaking a range rover of the same spec and age.
 
So...if a V8 is over/under-revving and generally acting up, one of the possible solutions might be to replace the coolant temperature sensor? Turns out that we ordered a sender rather than a sensor, but what the hell, replace it anyway, right?

Over-zealous boyfriend tightened the (as it turned out different sized) replacement sender to the point where it sheared off. :mad:

So, today he had-at the stump of the sender with a bolt remover (reverse thread-tap thing) with a similar amount of agression. The stump of the sender started to shift and then, CRACK goes the housing. :mad:

So now we have a '96 EFI Discovery with a big thread-tap thinger sticking out of where the coolant sender ought to be and a one inch crack running down to the body of the manifold. And it leaked a little coolant as you might expect. Could anyone suggest the next step please? I assume that it will need welding back up again and re-tapping for a new sender, but could we use epoxy or similar to keep it running in the meantime (without creating an exciting coolant fountain whilst on the M5). We seem to have borked our only mode of transport! :eek:

Any suggestions?

Mim.


Sorry to hear about this going from bad to worse. My suggestions;

Step 1, get some of this EPOXY PUTTY STICK STEEL ALUMINIUM SETTING TIME 10MINS | eBay and bodge the leak.
Step 2, start looking for another inlet manifold AND and new valley gasket. Ebay is a great place (sorry I not got any spare)
Step 3, If you not got already, buy a repair manual (Haynes is OK) and a torque wrench
Step 4, Use both of the above
Step 5, Get another boyfriend!

Good luck, and let us know if you need any more help
 
if you were local I could bodge it for you with some specail epoxy but the time it would last would be guesswork. it would bebest to take it off to weld it as cast ally it a bastid to weld so you may as well fit a used one, I expect there are a million out there.

I would look on ebay for somone breaking a range rover of the same spec and age.

Thanks :) just a shame you're not closer!

We're trying to sort out either a temporary bodge, or alternative transport with our mechanic, but longer term it obvously needs a more permanent fix.

I've managed to find a couple of Discos on ebay being broken for spares, but I forgot to mention earlier; my Disco has an OMVL Dream xxi multipoint LPG system. Thinking I'd prefer to get my hands on a pre-drilled manifold if at all possible.

From what I've found out so far - as long as the new manifold comes from another engine with multipoint LPG injectors, it should be ok to use, is this correct? or might the manifold be drilled differently for different manufacturer's multipoint systems?

The alternative, I guess would be to get hold of an "undrilled" manifold and find someone to drill it for me (prefer not to do this myself/ let OH do it!)
 
Step 5, Get another boyfriend!

:D

Boyfriend is currently inflating his bike tyres so that he can go and fetch some gunk for bodging (bless him!) He did repair my PC yesterday just before wrecking the car, so I won't write him off quite yet :rolleyes:

Thanks for the encouragement. We already have both Rave and Halfords manuals, I know where I can borrow a torque wrench, and I've spotted a couple of potential replacement manifolds, so I think we're getting it all under control (so far!)

Jamesmartin:

Is your spare drilled for LPG injectors at all?

Apologies for the disjointed posting - I hadn't refreshed before my last post & missed both of your replies.

Thanks

Amy
 
An update...

Boyfriend returned with steel epoxy gubbins which we've now used to fill the crack and hole for the sender. I've tracked down an undrilled replacement manifold - figure I can sort the drilling/tapping for LPG injectors later.

We waited until the epoxy had cured, then it started raining. Got bored of waiting for it to stop, so armed with an umbrella and a number of rags we replaced hoses, dizzy cap, plug leads, and refilled the coolant.

Screwed the radiator cap back in, then when I tightened it (gently - I swear!) the top of the cursed, hateful thing came off in my bloody hand.

We then stepped back inside before one of us could push the damn car down the hill into the sea (mud). The remainder of the cap has been pried out and epoxy is once more curing as I type...
 
Ouch!

Good luck with it....and the way your luck is running at the mo, i wouldn't bother wasting any money buying a lottery ticket this week!!!

cheers, Joe
 
An update...

Boyfriend returned with steel epoxy gubbins which we've now used to fill the crack and hole for the sender. I've tracked down an undrilled replacement manifold - figure I can sort the drilling/tapping for LPG injectors later.

We waited until the epoxy had cured, then it started raining. Got bored of waiting for it to stop, so armed with an umbrella and a number of rags we replaced hoses, dizzy cap, plug leads, and refilled the coolant.

Screwed the radiator cap back in, then when I tightened it (gently - I swear!) the top of the cursed, hateful thing came off in my bloody hand.

We then stepped back inside before one of us could push the damn car down the hill into the sea (mud). The remainder of the cap has been pried out and epoxy is once more curing as I type...

:doh:
 
I'd say that; :doh: describes it all so much more elegantly than I ever could :p

Scary thing is, I'm actually really enjoying myself...

He's been out for a run, and the bodges seem to be holding. I'll be taking a big bottle of water, the rest of the epoxy filler, plus the toolbox with me to work tomorrow.

Imagine I'll be back soon with noob questions about refitting inlet manifolds. Wish me luck!
 
I'd say that; :doh: describes it all so much more elegantly than I ever could :p

Scary thing is, I'm actually really enjoying myself...

He's been out for a run, and the bodges seem to be holding. I'll be taking a big bottle of water, the rest of the epoxy filler, plus the toolbox with me to work tomorrow.

Imagine I'll be back soon with noob questions about refitting inlet manifolds. Wish me luck!


How are your tea and bacon sandwiches? if they are good and your stuck I'm not a million miles away.
 
I think that this thread needs a new title...

Disco drove beautifully over to Bristol this morning. Approx half a mile away from work I noticed the tiniest wobble in the power, and switched it from gas to petrol to see if there was any difference just before getting off the motorway. It didn't seem any different, but after stopping at lights and going again I couldn't notice anything wrong any more, only problem was that it didn't want to switch back to gas.

As I pulled into the car park I noticed a small amount of steam escaping briefly from under the bonnet on the same side as the radiator cap. I parked up, opened the bonnet and as expected, our fix on the cap had failed and the radiator had leaked through the hole in the cap. There was no more steam, so I assumed all was ok - I just needed to fix or replace the cap and replace any fluid lost.

Spent the day (in between working) unsuccesfully trying to source a new cap - I ended up sneakily mixing up epoxy resin in the kitchen at work and re-glueing the cap back together.

So work ends, I top up the coolant with (quite a lot of) water and replace the cap. Then when I turn the ignition, the fuel pump doesn't prime and the engine cranks, catches very briefly, then dies.

Over the next hour and a half we tried starting it on gas (nearly, but not quite first time, then nothing), putting it in gear and cranking (nothing), swearing at it (nada) and, standing over the other side of the car park glaring at it whilst smoking cigarettes.

We have abandoned the rotten thing in Bristol having borrowed OH's brother's car. We're heading back with a multimeter and jump pack tomorrow to try jumping the fuel pump directly. I've told the guys at work that if they need me, I'll be in the car park...

Is there any way that the rad leak could cause the fuel pump to fail? Or is this just not my week?
 
I think that this thread needs a new title...

Disco drove beautifully over to Bristol this morning. Approx half a mile away from work I noticed the tiniest wobble in the power, and switched it from gas to petrol to see if there was any difference just before getting off the motorway. It didn't seem any different, but after stopping at lights and going again I couldn't notice anything wrong any more, only problem was that it didn't want to switch back to gas.

As I pulled into the car park I noticed a small amount of steam escaping briefly from under the bonnet on the same side as the radiator cap. I parked up, opened the bonnet and as expected, our fix on the cap had failed and the radiator had leaked through the hole in the cap. There was no more steam, so I assumed all was ok - I just needed to fix or replace the cap and replace any fluid lost.

Spent the day (in between working) unsuccesfully trying to source a new cap - I ended up sneakily mixing up epoxy resin in the kitchen at work and re-glueing the cap back together.

So work ends, I top up the coolant with (quite a lot of) water and replace the cap. Then when I turn the ignition, the fuel pump doesn't prime and the engine cranks, catches very briefly, then dies.

Over the next hour and a half we tried starting it on gas (nearly, but not quite first time, then nothing), putting it in gear and cranking (nothing), swearing at it (nada) and, standing over the other side of the car park glaring at it whilst smoking cigarettes.

We have abandoned the rotten thing in Bristol having borrowed OH's brother's car. We're heading back with a multimeter and jump pack tomorrow to try jumping the fuel pump directly. I've told the guys at work that if they need me, I'll be in the car park...

Is there any way that the rad leak could cause the fuel pump to fail? Or is this just not my week?

If you get really stuck pm me
 
If you get really stuck pm me

Thank you :) I think we're just about alright (for the moment)

We fixed the pump and got it back to Weston. Just after we got off the motorway it started making a whining noise from the general gear/transfer box area so we took it straight to our mechanic and told him we didn't want the damn thing any more :D

Went to start it up to drop it round the corner on our driveway - it sounded awful, like it was firing on maybe two cylinders *exaggerates*.

So we've left it there for the moment. I think it may be time to sell up...
 

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