I was up there in me mates disco when we went up last, went there on the saturday on our tod. We went up and thru the forestry then started to head over to Betwys but he chickened out and we turned round. and if you think it's tight going up you want to try guiding a nooby in an 300 tdi auto who kept it in Low D instead of sticking it into 1st, to stop it changing up. Bastid nearly ran me over 3 times.
Griff, Llanarmon DC is at the easterly end of the Motorway that is also known as the Wayfarers. On your epic Welsh adventure are you doin Happy Valley?
yer route names include (in order) sarn helen - soar y mynydd - strata florida - happy valley - bwlch y groes - wayfarers - conquering hero (Sp?) - pheasent steps (as i now know what its called)