Gen Grabber AT2 are recognised as being the standard by which other AT tyres are judged - take his arm off - they are good tyres - little extra road noise, good grip in dodgy conditions and long wearing. I have them on my Slitty and it coped with Salisbury Plain no prob and all the ice and snow we had earlier this year.

Oh - they aint budget tyres either at £97 a corner, either.
 
Oh - I know about and love the tyres - dont get me wrong - but worried that my car currently has H rated tyres and these are only T rated - I dont want a prang and the insurance company doing me for having the wrong speed rating? Am I cool fitting T rated grabber's?
 
bit the guys hand off as recommended - got 4 16" alloy wheels in good nick and 4 almost new general grabber at2 for £240 quid all in - he even threw in two more alloys with almost new michelins (not AT) into the bargain.

Result - :D
 
We had budgets on our TD4 when we bought it & they were terrible, no matter how many times they were balanced they still shook.
Have fitted a set of Kumhos and its like a new car.

Steve

Had exactly the same problem, I had Federals on and they drove me mad, trying to find the cause of the steering wheel wobble. Balanced, swapped around, and numerous inspections. Put a set of Bridgestones on and now drives quiet and wobble free.
 
Sorry to dredge this one up but...

It seems a lot of you are poo-pooing Kumho tyres without having first hand experience of them.
I've had both good and bad experiences. When Kumho were becoming commonly available in this country (would say around 2002) I had a set on my Megane coupe. They were OK, but not great in the rain. In 2005, we had some on our Fiesta. Not good at all in both wet and dry conditions, but especially dangerous in the wet.

Since then, I've given them a wide berth, but I would consider fitting some to the Land Rover now. Why?

1) They are around £75 a corner Fitted for some KL78s from Black Circles.
2) They are now fitted as standard (from 2007 I believe) to the A-class Mercedes. Now granted this contract will have been won, in part, on cost, but quality and performance would also have been considered.
3) Improvements in technology. Tyres are constantly improving, and even 'copycat' tyre producers are only a few years behind the leaders. Yes, this can equate to several seconds a lap on a race circuit and the difference between being stuck in the mud in a bog, and not, but to those of us who are looking for a comprimise between ability and cost, Kumho is not a bad choice.

In any event, Kumho is now recognised as a 'mid-range tyre' by many suppliers.

I've been able to find one negative review of the KL78, and several positive ones. In my experience, tyres which are poor performing often have far more negative comments than positive since people often only review products they are impressed or dissapointed with.
 
Sorry to dredge this one up but...

It seems a lot of you are poo-pooing Kumho tyres without having first hand experience of them.
I've had both good and bad experiences. When Kumho were becoming commonly available in this country (would say around 2002) I had a set on my Megane coupe. They were OK, but not great in the rain. In 2005, we had some on our Fiesta. Not good at all in both wet and dry conditions, but especially dangerous in the wet.

Since then, I've given them a wide berth, but I would consider fitting some to the Land Rover now. Why?

1) They are around £75 a corner Fitted for some KL78s from Black Circles.
2) They are now fitted as standard (from 2007 I believe) to the A-class Mercedes. Now granted this contract will have been won, in part, on cost, but quality and performance would also have been considered.
3) Improvements in technology. Tyres are constantly improving, and even 'copycat' tyre producers are only a few years behind the leaders. Yes, this can equate to several seconds a lap on a race circuit and the difference between being stuck in the mud in a bog, and not, but to those of us who are looking for a comprimise between ability and cost, Kumho is not a bad choice.

In any event, Kumho is now recognised as a 'mid-range tyre' by many suppliers.

I've been able to find one negative review of the KL78, and several positive ones. In my experience, tyres which are poor performing often have far more negative comments than positive since people often only review products they are impressed or dissapointed with.


Just stuck 2 Kumho on rear axel at less and 100 fitted ea - can report no difference to the ageing pirelli STR they replaced from the front. Can no longer justify cost of Pirelli STRs 17" at somewhere in the order of 170 a corner. These we're around 110 four yrs ago.

So far no difference off road - although I can't speak from experience if they were also on the front axel.
 
Kumho tyres are very good, search the reviews & you'll see they stack up against the big boys.
Another interesting point to remember is that Continental have owned Matador tyres for the last 2 years & Matador are made using Continentals rubber formulas. Problem is, you really need to see the date code to make sure they aren't old stock which have been lying around for some time.
 
Morning all, I have just being speaking to my mate who has the tyre shop and I told him that I'm a member on here and put a message up about the Continental Premium Contact 2 (215-65-16) tyres has has in stock, and he said if anyone off Landyzone wants any he'll do them for £40 each, all brand new and can be fitted if need be or can post out.

Dan


That price definitely can't be beaten.
 
Black Circles are doing some Kumho KL78's fitted for around £75 a corner for our ickle 195/80 R15s.

E-tyres knocked a few per cent off a set of Falken Landair A/T's to make them the same price and will come fit them at our house on Saturday.

Gotta love where competition takes us!
 
ive just brought some "Accellera" tyres £70 per corner and so far they have been very good in the wet and dry not tried of road yet and only done 300miles but impressed so far
 
I put a set of GT Radial Champiro HPY (235/50/ZR18 101Y XL) onto my TD4 Auto Sport about 500 miles ago, so far so good, appear to work well in all conditions including snow, quiet, comfortable and less than half the price of the Continental 4x4 Contacts they replaced, no complaints.
 
I have also got to agree with bigeeee not worth the bother i have goodyear wrangler and nothing else will do best on road noise and grip a good all year tyre
 
Maybe I've just been unlucky, but over the years I've tried fitting budget tyres to various motors and I've always regretted it. :(

There was also one or two of the set which didn't make it to the minimum tread depth - so I landed up with a mismatched set - which on a FL will upset the VCU.

I bought 3 extra wheels off eBay, so I've now got myself 8 identical alloys and 2 sets of tyres, all Continental as I have found them to be the most reliable, long lasting, and super grippy.

I have a summer set of ContiSport 2s and a winter set of Conti 4X4 Contacts and swap them over, usually when the clocks go forward and back in Spring and Autumn. :D

I've learned it's false economy to skimp on tyres or brakes.

S. :cool:
 
Ive a full set of mich synchrones on my 04 freeby, got 4 brand new ones fitted may 10. Covered 18k since and the fronts are still like new. £650 fitted. Expensive but they will last a long time, the grip levels are superb and i can use the car in confidence in all weather.
They replaced 2 worn out synchrones and 2 kumho's. I didnt like the kumhos, the back never felt settled with them on and the grip they offered in the snow was a bit disappointing.

Cheap tyres are cheap for a reason, just because some taxi firm uses them means sod all. Grip levels in both dry and wet are reduced over a proper tyre, there are countless tests to show that.

Your taking the safety of yourself, your car and the road users, why skimp on it?
 
Forgot to mention that I've got a matched pair of part-worn Synchrones with about 5mm left on them.

PM me if anyone is interested. :)
 
when i bought my sport they had just fitted four Autogrip F106's and I thought 'they're coming off' but I have to admit that after 6k miles thru all weathers they've been very good and are wearing very well. a little noisier than the conti's but hey, thats what the volume on the HK system id for ;)
 

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