Thats why no modern vehicle puts the headlamps power through the switch itself as its such a good design
Thats why no modern vehicle puts the headlamps power through the switch itself as its such a good design
nobber
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Thats why no modern vehicle puts the headlamps power through the switch itself as its such a good design
No, but its simplicity was purposeful, have you seen inside one of those switches? they are way over rated for their intended use, they are made so you can easily clean the contacts or replace them, the whole system can be diagnosed easily, repaired easily, and if needs be botched or replaced easily, Land Rover electrics are designed to be simple, You wouldn't want to be stuck in the middle of the Sahara with a faulty CAN bus system, fried ECU or any node for that matter.
The problem is people see dim lights and automatically think landy lights are pants, they dont see an electrical system as something that requires maintenance.
ogb
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Despite my annoyance with "some things Landrover" I have to agree with your general point. It's the difference between "reliable" (they're not) and "serviceable" (they are)...and by anyone with a big hammer or, in this case, a bit of emery and some time. I'd rather have the second characteristic which can be an advantage in the backwoods, than the first if it relies on a diagnostic computer or other tech.
nobber
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I find the lighting circuit no less reliable than anything else, if it kept in good order. I often read ''my lights are crap, I need daybreakers'', no , you dont need daybreakers, your lights are crap because they are either worn out bulbs or there is a fault somewhere, we are talking about vehicles from the 80's at the earliest, not the 1920's.
frog hopper
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2.4 VM, not my 1st choice of engine to be fair but since having the car ("Buttercup" is a RRC by the way) I am growing to like it.
nobber
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Had an LDV in the workshop a while back with one of them, couldn't figure out why it wouldn't start, just about to load the parts cannon when I found out if the battery gets low it switches off the injectors, new battery sorted it. Funny thing was the engine was cranking over fine on the starter.
frog hopper
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Pretty sure my injectors are mechanical, no electrics involved.
nobber
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This was a fairly new Maxus.
Maxus another quality vehicle
Worked at a daf dealer who had the ldv franchise and it was literally wall to wall dead maxus, luckily I only did the trucks, not that thye were perfect either.
When LDC went tits up they got the Nissan van franshise and whilst they werent as bad as the LDVs they had their issues.
VM FH is talking about is unusual as they have seperate cylinder heads and are super reliable
, Iirc the VM was also available in the Jeep and wasnt well though of.I actually think the VM had more bhp than the tdi that replaced it.
There cant be many VMs left in their original land rover vehicles?
frog hopper
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The VM (2.4lt) in my classic rangie certainly pulls better than the 200Tdi in my 90, or the 200Tdi in my disco.Maxus another quality vehicle
VM FH is talking about is unusual as they have seperate cylinder heads and are super reliable
I actually think the VM had more bhp than the tdi that replaced it.
There cant be many VMs left in their original land rover vehicles?
Having said that it does have a recent rebuilt turbo in it. No idea of bhp.
DaveM-sport
Active Member
LED headlights sorts the wiring issue perfectly I had a few switches fail over the years but once changed to LED headlights, I had awesome lights and never had a blown switch again
I would agree that the simple design is an advantage if something does fail as you can pretty much get them going again with a knife and some insulation tape on the side of the road lol.
I would agree that the simple design is an advantage if something does fail as you can pretty much get them going again with a knife and some insulation tape on the side of the road lol.
