norseman · Dec 15, 2015

ovalandrover said:
to go to my regular station where he would have fitted the globe and passed it .

+1
I've used the same local garage for MOT's for several years to test both the RRC & our daily driver, at a cost of £40.
I normally have them tested up to a month early is case of a failure but todays VOSA system I believe makes it an offence to drive a 'failed' vehicle even if the original certificate is still valid - can anyone clarify that point?

wammers · Dec 15, 2015

norseman said:
+1
I've used the same local garage for MOT's for several years to test both the RRC & our daily driver, at a cost of £40.
I normally have them tested up to a month early is case of a failure but todays VOSA system I believe makes it an offence to drive a 'failed' vehicle even if the original certificate is still valid - can anyone clarify that point?

That is correct.

flat · Dec 15, 2015

wammers said:
Yes a good thrashing now and again does a lot of good, specially if your daily driving is short distance low speed. Also same for diesels. [/QUOTE
The driving for the defender is about 3-4K a year mix of prob 25% of journeys more than an hour and the rest under.

Good to hear thrashing it is worthwhile!

flat · Dec 15, 2015

norseman said:
+1
I've used the same local garage for MOT's for several years to test both the RRC & our daily driver, at a cost of £40.
I normally have them tested up to a month early is case of a failure but todays VOSA system I believe makes it an offence to drive a 'failed' vehicle even if the original certificate is still valid - can anyone clarify that point?

That's what my mot man told me - you can take it early but if it fails it overwrites the existing ticket

cooltide · Dec 15, 2015

Mot station attaches copy of emissions test result to his paperwork and types in pass / fail on the vosa site.

As Adam says, this guy is having a laugh prescribing a new exhaust, and if he was half decent he would advised you to take it for a blast and try again

SteNova · Dec 15, 2015

norseman said:
+1
I've used the same local garage for MOT's for several years to test both the RRC & our daily driver, at a cost of £40.
I normally have them tested up to a month early is case of a failure but todays VOSA system I believe makes it an offence to drive a 'failed' vehicle even if the original certificate is still valid - can anyone clarify that point?

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test
that’s failed
You can take your vehicle away if your MOT certificate is still valid.

If your MOT has run out you can take your vehicle to:

have the failed defects fixed
a pre-arranged MOT test appointment

In both cases, your vehicle still needs to meet the minimum standards of roadworthiness at all times or you can be fined.

Dippypud · Dec 15, 2015

wammers said:
The new standard emission test rigs won't take any readings or function at all until they get a signal that the engine is up to temperature.

Put the sensor over your lighter ...

wammers · Dec 15, 2015

Dippypud said:
Put the sensor over your lighter ...

Not much help really as a cool engine is more likely to fail emissions.

Dippypud · Dec 15, 2015

wammers said:
Not much help really as a cool engine is more likely to fail emissions.

I've seen it done ... and never near a smoker ...

norseman · Dec 16, 2015

SteNova said:
https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test
that’s failed
You can take your vehicle away if your MOT certificate is still valid.
.

Thank you for that website info. which gives total clarification on the legal position.
Like many of us, I suspect some garages are interpreting the 'rules' to suit themselves & raise revenue as a result.

josh00mac · Dec 23, 2015

Thanks for all the advice guys. The car totally failed on emissions - so badly I simply don't understand how it passed the year before. I had the whole system replaced with new (non OEM) including 2 replacement manifolds from a breakers as the old ones were so warped. A costly pre Christmas venture. the old system was the original and leaking like a sieve. The new system has a slightly increased woofle which is welcome. Had I known all of this would have happened in advance I would probably have had an entire system built up by SS. Ho hum.

ukadamwest · Dec 23, 2015

When you say it failed on emissions what were the readings ? if you have replaced the manifolds are there leaks from the gasket face or down pipe ? If so leaks will screw the emissions readings. also if there are leaks before the O2 sensors then they will mis read resulting in adjusted fuel/air mix. which will also screw the emissions readings.

My Porsche failed earlier this year following a clamp not torqued up which allowed the gasses to escape, resulting in an emissions failure due to the escaping gasses giving a too lean mixture reading.

you should have an emissions print out. what are the results on it ?

cooltide · Dec 23, 2015

ukadamwest said:
My Porsche failed earlier this year following a clamp not torqued up which allowed the gasses to escape, resulting in an emissions failure due to the escaping gasses giving a too lean mixture reading.

what a coincidence, same thing happened with my fezza

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