well, you edited to sort your spelling but still couldn't spell the insult properly,

what your saying by trying to insult me is actually confirming that what "Stenova" wrote in post35 is incorrect, and that what I have stated is correct, so thank you for agreeing with me even if it was unknowingly,

with regards to the small trucks like the Toyota dyna which is a car license the 3500kgs still applies and a separate test is needed,

you could have a HGV ticket and still have to have a separate test for the trailer,
** this includes the 7.5 ton tipper lorry that was previously on a car license.

see below from VOSA website:


1. Overview


The Driving Standards Agency (DSA) and Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) have merged to form the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA).

You need a goods vehicle operator’s licence if your business uses goods vehicles above a certain weight.

You need a licence to carry goods in a lorry, van or other vehicle with either:

-a gross plated weight (the maximum weight that the vehicle can have at any one time) of over 3,500 kilograms (kg)
-an unladen weight of more than 1,525 kg (where there is no plated weight)
 
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According to who?
No where I can find says anything about being legal to tow above 3500kgs on a post 97 licence. Pre 97 you can tow anything you like basically
 
I don't get it? Your quoting the dvla which says exactly what I have been saying

" as long as the combined weight of the trailer and towing vehicle is *No more than 3,500kg*" argue that I'm wrong then quote the dvla telling me I'm right?
 
SteNova said:
no, your trailer would have to be plated at 750kg, (or be unplated with tyres limiting 750max) you can tow 750kg even if you have 3500mam vehicle see the ifor williams flow chart
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And here again you say you can tow a trailer with a towing vehicle of 3500kg MAM
 
I'm tired and confused, you can tow a trailer with a 3500mam van etc, but it's max trailer 750kg
 
I know what you mean, its very confusing, but no, if your towing vehicle is 3500kg you can't tow anything, the Absolute Maximum train weight (total combined MAM towing vehicle and trailer) on a post 97 licence Is 3500kg, if you wanted to tow with a sprinter you'd have to do the test.
 
Alfresco said:
Not bloody simple is it?!

Right I own a 1999 Defender 110 Station wagon TD5 which my research tells me is just under 2000kg (please correct me if that's wrong)
I also own a caravan which is 850kg
Totalling 2850kg (smrt me)

However I have a post 1997 licence which only allows me a class B:
"You can drive vehicles up to 3,500kg Maximum Authorised Mass (MAM) with up to 8 passenger seats (with a trailer up to 750kg).

You can also tow heavier trailers if the total weight of vehicle and trailer isn’t more than 3,500kg."

I'm right in thinking I've no problem here right?

Also, if I load up the landy and the van with holiday gubbins, and PC plod stops me for a check, will they just go by the vehicle and van spec plates to judge weights? Or will they make me go to a weigh bridge, and will I get a slapped wrist if the total including contents is more than 3,500kg?
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I too have a post '97 license - yet I can legally hire and drive and 18seater minibus - lol, go figure, they took a copy of my license too beforehand. I have also rented and driven a fully loaded luton van which must have been way over the stated amount...
 
Sorry the way I read the flow chart and towing with a car gov site

Post 1997
You can
1. Drive a vehicle that weights up to 3500 kg's mam weight.
2. Drive a mam vehicle of 3500 kg's towing a trailer of mam 750 kg's.(hence 4250kg on ifs flow chart)
3. Drive a vehicle with a trailer larger than 750 kg's mam as long as the combination of trailer and vehicle is no more than 3500 kg's mam.
 
Joe and Mcclegend,

please remember these places are selling you things, your not going to be able to blame them if you get pulled, I've operated hire diggers since I could reach the pedals but I don't have a ticket, no one asks and no one cares as its up to you if you want to take the risk, the hire company would only get a slap the the back of the hand. Hell I've had hire vans a few times and I'm apparently not old enough to drive them,

Mcclegemd:

Point 3 cancels out point 2,

You can drive a vehicle
*up to* 3500kg

Or drive a vehicle towing a trailer with combined MAM of
*no more than 3500kg*

No where on the dvla/vosa/dvsa site have I seen anything about 4250kg
I've only seen that on the ifw flowchart thing,
 
DieselDazzler05 said:
Joe and Mcclegend,
No where on the dvla/vosa/dvsa site have I seen anything about 4250kg
I've only seen that on the ifw flowchart thing,
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https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/driving-licence-rules-and-what-you-can-tow

Licences held from 1 January 1997
If you passed your driving test after 1 January 1997 and have an ordinary category B (car) licence, you can:

drive a vehicle up to 3.5 tonnes or 3,500kg MAM towing a trailer of up to 750kg MAM
tow a trailer over 750kg MAM as long as the combined weight of the trailer and towing vehicle is no more than 3,500kg
 
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