Marmaduke · Aug 25, 2016

IamRobbie said:
that's 52 apparently.

Subtle

300bhp/ton · Aug 25, 2016

nobber said:
Utter bollocks, you mean night time being conditions when you need good lights? When its wet? You need good lights when its wet? Foggy? really? Bright lights in fog are the worst, you need fog lights in fog. you really have no excuse to call them a bad option have you?

I thought it obvious, when its dark AND wet, OR dark AND foggy.....

I'm well aware of what sealed beam units are like, having owned multiple Land Rovers, MG's and Triumphs. Many of which have been used for commuting.

However when you are in traffic in certain winter conditions when it's dark (which for many of us is commuting time), a good set of lights makes a world of difference.

Retrospaceman · Aug 25, 2016

zeaphod said:
+1 for the standards - I'm on the crystal lens with brighter bulbs. Very bright. Unless you're really after the look of LED headlamps, you can do better for much less £££.

zeaphod said:
A decent set of crystal lenses and good quality bulbs will still leave you £££ to spend on a light bar - just sayin'

I agree with @zeaphod - I did this upgrade and it made a massive difference. I added in a relay and heavier duty cable to my second fuse box to feed the brighter bulbs as I was a bit worried about burning the original wiring out. Worked a treat and not that expensive.

nobber · Aug 25, 2016

300bhp/ton said:
I thought it obvious, when its dark AND wet, OR dark AND foggy.....

I'm well aware of what sealed beam units are like, having owned multiple Land Rovers, MG's and Triumphs. Many of which have been used for commuting.

However when you are in traffic in certain winter conditions when it's dark (which for many of us is commuting time), a good set of lights makes a world of difference.

I still don't understand why wet needs better lights? Is that so you can get more dazzle into oncoming traffic off the wet road surface?
And if you have aver driven in fog you would know that strong head lights are the last thing you need.
If its that bad for you why not just drive around with your full beam on?

Coffeelandy · Aug 28, 2016

nobber said:
Just put new standard bulbs in and make sure your electrical system works Ok, you'll be surprised.
I live in the middle of nowhere and run sealed beams , they work just fine.

Mind do work fine to be fair I just want to reduce load on the alt as I've got a very juicy split charger.

Coffeelandy · Aug 28, 2016

discomania said:
I'd say there is nothing wrong with the stock LR headlights. If you think they are poor then there may be a reason. I run Osram Night Breakers in mine now but before those I had never been driving along thinking I need more light. I replaced the headlight units years ago as the reflectors on the originals had deteriorated badly. Wiring is all good and I am happy with the light on dark lanes or off road.

So the Osrams need any other bits with them? I've seen those H4 kits. Can I plug and play on your 97 110?
Part number would be great may as well start with these might dave myself a bob.

jund37 · Aug 28, 2016

I've had these in for over a month quality for those dark country lanes

pete1987RRC · Aug 29, 2016

Marmaduke said:
No idea but this is how big it is

Bet if you made an additional shroud with chequer plate it would look even more naff than it does now!

Litch · Aug 29, 2016

Just to put this back onto the original track.......

I have Nolden LED headlights on my 90 and they are ok.
A friend has Nolden LED's on his Defender Adventure (factory fit) and Britpart LED's on his day to day Defender and having been able to do a direct comparison says that the Britpart units are better in every way.

Coffeelandy · Aug 29, 2016

Litch said:
Just to put this back onto the original track.......

I have Nolden LED headlights on my 90 and they are ok.
A friend has Nolden LED's on his Defender Adventure (factory fit) and Britpart LED's on his day to day Defender and having been able to do a direct comparison says that the Britpart units are better in every way.

That's what I needed to hear. Do you know if I can just shove in Osram Night Breakers into the existing lights or do I need a kit for H4?

zeaphod · Aug 30, 2016

Plug straight in, the H4 is the standard Landy fitment. They are not higher wattage - just more efficient/brighter.

discomania · Aug 30, 2016

Coffeelandy said:
So the Osrams need any other bits with them? I've seen those H4 kits. Can I plug and play on your 97 110?
Part number would be great may as well start with these might dave myself a bob.

You just need to get the H4 units like the Wipac Crystal and then the H4 lamps you want to go in them.

IamRobbie · Aug 30, 2016

pete1987RRC said:
Bet if you made an additional shroud with chequer plate it would look even more naff than it does now!

Personal preference as to what people like to do with their own landy tho ain't it?

nobber · Aug 30, 2016

IamRobbie said:
Personal preference as to what people like to do with their own landy tho ain't it?

Yeah but we are allowed to take the peesh though.

IamRobbie · Aug 30, 2016

nobber said:
Yeah but we are allowed to take the peesh though.

Of course lol. I don't need enemies as I have friends who have a habit of taking the peesh out of mine lol

pete1987RRC · Aug 31, 2016

IamRobbie said:
Personal preference as to what people like to do with their own landy tho ain't it?

One day there will be a special police to stop such a travesty, first though they need to start with the car OEMs as they produce a lot of ugly junk so wired lights can be arround for a while........

IamRobbie · Aug 31, 2016

pete1987RRC said:
One day there will be a special police to stop such a travesty, first though they need to start with the car OEMs as they produce a lot of ugly junk so wired lights can be arround for a while........

Fashion police for land rovers lol

Ben Jordan · Aug 31, 2016

I got a set of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rove...IR-E-Marked-/172123741386?hash=item28135fdcca
They are E marked and very easy to install, on a standard H4 loom that your car already has. Just plug and play. Much better light output. Easy to align. And very eye catching if you're a poser. I did a 'best offer' price and got them at £200.
Pic is with just the halo ring lit which I have wired into sidelights.

zeaphod · Aug 31, 2016

pete1987RRC said:
One day there will be a special police to stop such a travesty, first though they need to start with the car OEMs as they produce a lot of ugly junk so wired lights can be arround for a while........

Don't forget "Walking in a loud shirt in a built-up area during the hours of darkness and walking around with an offensive wife"

Coffeelandy · Sep 1, 2016

Ben Jordan said:
I got a set of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rove...IR-E-Marked-/172123741386?hash=item28135fdcca
They are E marked and very easy to install, on a standard H4 loom that your car already has. Just plug and play. Much better light output. Easy to align. And very eye catching if you're a poser. I did a 'best offer' price and got them at £200.
Pic is with just the halo ring lit which I have wired into sidelights.

I'm trying the Osrams first as they're plug and play. My main aim is to reduce load on my alt as I have some greedy things running. Cheers for the link.

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