Rather than start a new thread - i'll add my Q on here, as I'm facing the same dilema.
Am currently without a jack, and needing to get one. As I'm a bit tight financially, but wanting a hilift for off road use in the medium term, does it make sense to use a hi-lift for wheel chaning, but drop onto an axle stand, or do I need to have a seprate jack for whell changing (already have access to a good trolley jack at my dad's when working underneath).
 
I have drawn this handy guide for advice when using a hi-lift jack for changing the wheels...

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In all seriousness - I fully appreciate changing a wheel with just a HL is dangerous - but is it safe to use a HL to lift the vehicle, drop an axle stand under, and change the wheel with the vehicle supported on an axle stand?
 
Used a Hi-Lift to get a Gear Box from underneath our Spares Disco, lifted the one side up quite a bit. Wish I'd taken a piccy now.
 
Don't like bottle jacks. The ones with small footprint can be very unstable and dangerous. I think they're generally a poor choice for 4x4s given that 4x4s are often on uneven and soft ground. Bottle jacks are not suitable for that. Sure, hi-lifts are equally as dangerous, but they're designed to be used in more extreme situations whereby the pros often outweigh the cons. As for bottlejacks, there's better alternatives imo.

Personally I don't trust any jack. I use them for the purpose they're designed for (lifting only) and then I use something else to secure the vehicle, such as axle stands. I've seen hydraulic trolley jacks lose pressure after holding the vehicle for just 10 mins. Good job nobody was underneath. People put too much trust in these things, even though they're only designed for lifting the vehicle, not for supporting it.

In all seriousness - I fully appreciate changing a wheel with just a HL is dangerous - but is it safe to use a HL to lift the vehicle, drop an axle stand under, and change the wheel with the vehicle supported on an axle stand?

The jack itself can cause severe injury. Sometimes people don't operate them correctly and the handles can fly back uncontrollably and do nasty damage. Then you have the high risk of the jack falling over. You can also chop your fingers off easily if you put them in the wrong place. To many on here, this will sound quite obvious. On the other hand though, the hi lift jack is not the most intuitive of all jacks. I'd only use one if I had no choice.


[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrfbR4REV-s"]YouTube - Hi-Lift Jack Operating Instructions[/nomedia]
 
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3 months back i searched everywhere for a decent jack to suit my discovery and transit vans ,bought eventually after a lot of studying them ,a halfords 3 tonne big black hi,lift trolley jack ,£99.99 it weighs it at around 40 kilos and what a tool ,lifted disco easily with no real effort ,high enough to place axle stands no problem ,so now carry it in disco with a slightly smaller one in transit etc ,Never get under a vehicle ever again with a bottle or scissor jack ,av seen a car collasped on a mate years back ,luckily for him 3 big lads were near by otherwise he would of been dead ,was in hospital with 3 broken ribs for a week ! also we have a hi,lift landrover ,farm jack gathering dust in workshop ,will take a pic tomoz maybe and post on here ,anybody know what there worth ?
 
Don't like bottle jacks. The ones with small footprint can be very unstable and dangerous. I think they're generally a poor choice for 4x4s given that 4x4s are often on uneven and soft ground. Bottle jacks are not suitable for that. Sure, hi-lifts are equally as dangerous, but they're designed to be used in more extreme situations whereby the pros often outweigh the cons. As for bottlejacks, there's better alternatives imo.

Personally I don't trust any jack. I use them for the purpose they're designed for (lifting only) and then I use something else to secure the vehicle, such as axle stands. I've seen hydraulic trolley jacks lose pressure after holding the vehicle for just 10 mins. Good job nobody was underneath. People put too much trust in these things, even though they're only designed for lifting the vehicle, not for supporting it.



The jack itself can cause severe injury. Sometimes people don't operate them correctly and the handles can fly back uncontrollably and do nasty damage. Then you have the high risk of the jack falling over. You can also chop your fingers off easily if you put them in the wrong place. To many on here, this will sound quite obvious. On the other hand though, the hi lift jack is not the most intuitive of all jacks. I'd only use one if I had no choice.


YouTube - Hi-Lift Jack Operating Instructions

Cheers fella - very helpful...:)
 
Don't like bottle jacks. The ones with small footprint can be very unstable and dangerous. I think they're generally a poor choice for 4x4s given that 4x4s are often on uneven and soft ground. Bottle jacks are not suitable for that. Sure, hi-lifts are equally as dangerous, but they're designed to be used in more extreme situations whereby the pros often outweigh the cons. As for bottlejacks, there's better alternatives imo.

If the foot print of ANY Jack is too small and the ground is realy soft, any Jack will sink in soft ground if the gound is soft enough,

I carry a four or five 18"ish lengths of scaffold board when i off road, not just to spead the load of the landy and Jack but to lessen the amount you have to pump at the Jack to start to lift the landy, you can also use them like a makeshift axle stand type thing when used along side a spare wheel, or used as a ramp with a waffle board, dont forget to also chock your wheels when lifting with a Jack.

One thing thats has to be remebered is that a Jack on it own is an object, and therefore is not unsafe..... they become unsafe when used incorrectly and in an unsafe manner......
 
i have a disco 1 and was wondering if i need hd bumper to lift it using a hilift jack or can you lift it up on the standard bumpers? obviously its safer to use a bumper with a jacking points but im just curious

thanks
 

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