blue beasty · Feb 2, 2015

The biggest drawback I can see here is for those that already have tweaked pumps. Returning the diaphragm to the original position is usually easy enough because you can see the score mark made by the pin but there is no way you can tell how much the smoke screw or star wheel has been adjusted.

It took me weeks of fiddling around to de-tweak a pump without either clouds of smoke of flat as a pancake.

blue beasty · Feb 2, 2015

Ah....not good

tetsu0san · Feb 2, 2015

myshadowself said:
It's all kicking off on Facebook!

The Timber Trail Boost pins have been found to be too soft for the job - mine included.

You need to be a member of the Landrover Discovery Owners Group to see this:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/13506049097/permalink/10153003587664098/

What does it say? What does it say?

Dippypud · Feb 2, 2015

blue beasty said:
The biggest drawback I can see here is for those that already have tweaked pumps. Returning the diaphragm to the original position is usually easy enough because you can see the score mark made by the pin but there is no way you can tell how much the smoke screw or star wheel has been adjusted.

It took me weeks of fiddling around to de-tweak a pump without either clouds of smoke of flat as a pancake.

It's not so bad if you made notes or whatever took pics on yer 'phone

but if you've bought it in good faith already tweaked, tis a begger ...

blue beasty · Feb 2, 2015

The chap that makes the pins for Timber Trail and Morgan Hill is saying that the soft pins are cheap copies from ebay being passed off as TT or MH pins but they are offering proper replacements as a goodwill gesture

myshadowself · Feb 2, 2015

Mine was definitely from Timber Trail and it's definitely soft.

blue beasty · Feb 2, 2015

myshadowself said:
Mine was definitely from Timber Trail and it's definitely soft.

I'm only passing on what's been said. Either way they'll hopefully honour the replacement offer

trax · Feb 2, 2015

SteNova said:
With no other changes I just fitted mine and boost went from 1.1 to 1.6 bar

it shouldn't affect boost at all; that's done by the wastegate. this is about fuel delivery

stuff in here if you want to read about it http://www.landroverweb.com/Pdf-files/Tuning_Land_Rover_Tdi_engines_Rev_2.pdf

myshadowself · Feb 2, 2015

Timber Trail have just been intouch with me.

They think it was a dodgy batch. Send em my pin and theyll send me a new one - that's all I wanted.

blue beasty · Feb 2, 2015

myshadowself said:
Timber Trail have just been intouch with me.

They think it was a dodgy batch. Send em my pin and theyll send me a new one - that's all I wanted.

Sounds more likely, wrong grade steel and blame fleabay

ronsealdeath · Feb 2, 2015

blue beasty said:
Sounds more likely, wrong grade steel and blame fleabay

Yeah, proper srainless is very hard, drilling my old boat transom was very time consuming and ate 3 bits!

trax · Feb 2, 2015

ronsealdeath said:
Yeah, proper srainless is very hard, drilling my old boat transom was very time consuming and ate 3 bits!

are they even stainless? also isn't normal a2 weaker than mild steel.. hence not getting a2s in 8.8+

ronsealdeath · Feb 2, 2015

trax said:
are they even stainless? also isn't normal a2 weaker than mild steel.. hence not getting a2s in 8.8+

I assumed the original was sorry, maybe not.

These things do look tempting as an easy little boost?

trax · Feb 2, 2015

ronsealdeath said:
I assumed the original was sorry, maybe not.

These things do look tempting as an easy little boost?

i think the original pin is stainless, mine didn't seem rusty anyway

yeah, they look good for playing with the fuel, but it's a fair bit of cash for something so simple.

SteNova · Feb 4, 2015

trax said:
it shouldn't affect boost at all; that's done by the wastegate. this is about fuel delivery

stuff in here if you want to read about it http://www.landroverweb.com/Pdf-files/Tuning_Land_Rover_Tdi_engines_Rev_2.pdf

Well all I did was fit the pin and I got loads more boost

trax · Feb 4, 2015

SteNova said:
Well all I did was fit the pin and I got loads more boost

should be unrelated. i think your wastegate is stuck or actuator broken or fiddled with.

1.6bar/23psi is really high for stock. is your exhaust glowing? the temps might be really high, high enough to damage your engine.

SteNova · Feb 8, 2015

trax said:
should be unrelated. i think your wastegate is stuck or actuator broken or fiddled with.

1.6bar/23psi is really high for stock. is your exhaust glowing? the temps might be really high, high enough to damage your engine.

egt gauge says it's safe, not often over 600, i'm looking forward to the day it breaks so i can fit something better :clap2:

trax · Feb 8, 2015

SteNova said:
egt gauge says it's safe, not often over 600, i'm looking forward to the day it breaks so i can fit something better :clap2:

ah cool you have an egt.. you got an uprated intercooler then?

SteNova · Feb 8, 2015

nope standard intercooler

cowasaki · Jul 6, 2015

Was there any update on this? Did the replacement pins work? Were they hard enough? Who shot JR?

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