luckymark

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:confused:hi guys, as some of you may have read my shiny new p38(to me) blew up after only three days of ownership! it looks like its the cylinder head, does anybody know if a head from a 325td bmw is the same? it looks the same, but i want to make sure before i buy it(its going for a good price) any info or advice will be gratefully received :confused2:
 
:confused:hi guys, as some of you may have read my shiny new p38(to me) blew up after only three days of ownership! it looks like its the cylinder head, does anybody know if a head from a 325td bmw is the same? it looks the same, but i want to make sure before i buy it(its going for a good price) any info or advice will be gratefully received :confused2:

BMW 325 td M51 engine. Range rover td M51 engine. Same head.
 
Beg to differ, the heads are not the same: the BMW heads have 6mm valves and the RR heads have 7mm valves. Ask me how I know.

But, a complete head from a BMW will be a direct fit to a RR engine block, if they have the same intake manifold to start with (alloy vs plastic).
 
only thing you need to check is the headgasket thickness,some will have 2 dots some 3 and some 4,if the bmw head has a thicker gasket i.e 4dot and yours has a 3 dot then use the 4 dot one, other wise you risk psitons hitting valves etc
 
Beg to differ, the heads are not the same: the BMW heads have 6mm valves and the RR heads have 7mm valves. Ask me how I know.

But, a complete head from a BMW will be a direct fit to a RR engine block, if they have the same intake manifold to start with (alloy vs plastic).

You know that because i think i told you. Do you remember that thread. Fitment wise same head. :):)
 
any idea how i can tell which gasket to use? the head is already off the car and ive got no way of knowing what gasket it came with, why o why o why does everything have to be so complicated all the time! thanks for all the info so far guys
 
any idea how i can tell which gasket to use? the head is already off the car and ive got no way of knowing what gasket it came with, why o why o why does everything have to be so complicated all the time! thanks for all the info so far guys

Gasket thickness depends on average piston protrusion above block. If in doubt use gasket with three holes.
 
Gasket thickness depends on average piston protrusion above block. If in doubt use gasket with three holes.


Good advice there,only otherway i can think of is to
A measure the depth of head against old head ,or
B,look at old gasket and go one hole more to be safer?
 
Good advice there,only otherway i can think of is to
A measure the depth of head against old head ,or
B,look at old gasket and go one hole more to be safer?

Nowt to do with head that is flat. It's all about piston protrusion. Thicker gasket lifts head away from pistons.
 
thanks guys, i,l let you know how i get on, should be good for a laugh, ive never changed a diesel engine head before, or a head on an engine with a timing chain, so ive no doubt theres plenty more posts where this one came from! sad thing is everyones telling me to scrap the thing and not waste any more money, and i wont repeat what the ball and chain had to say on the matter, but even after only driving the thing for three days i think ive become addicted already! maybe i do need my head examined after all
 
thanks guys, i,l let you know how i get on, should be good for a laugh, ive never changed a diesel engine head before, or a head on an engine with a timing chain, so ive no doubt theres plenty more posts where this one came from! sad thing is everyones telling me to scrap the thing and not waste any more money, and i wont repeat what the ball and chain had to say on the matter, but even after only driving the thing for three days i think ive become addicted already! maybe i do need my head examined after all

You need tools to time the engine and fit the cam. Follow the head fitting and torquing instructions to the letter.
 

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