lordluke1995 · Jul 10, 2012

hi there about to start my 200tdi conversion, bought a whole disco, so i have the gear box for it, question being, should i use the bell housing off of the series gear box or the disco one to save having to drill holes, is it a straight swap ? is the disco bell housing deeper ??

and secondly would the disco gear box fit straight in ?, i want to use the disco diffs anyway.....

some info on bell housing configuration would be really usefull

regards Luke

jamesmartin · Jul 10, 2012

you can try disco one,but id just remove studs that dont line up ,and fit gear box as is theres more than enough studs left to do the job

mistericeman · Jul 10, 2012

Disco box will end up with the gear lever between the seats ....

Defender LT77 to end up with it a more convential spot ...the bellhousing/input gears could possibly be swapped BUT it would be a world of pain to do IMHO .

Defender LT77 still needs prop shaft mods to fit in a series 88

jamesmartin · Jul 10, 2012

mistericeman said:
Disco box will end up with the gear lever between the seats ....

Defender LT77 to end up with it a more convential spot ...the bellhousing/input gears could possibly be swapped BUT it would be a world of pain to do IMHO .

Defender LT77 still needs prop shaft mods to fit in a series 88

i wasnt been serious about bell housing ,you couldnt fit lt77 one on a sereies box

mistericeman · Jul 10, 2012

jamesmartin said:
i wasnt been serious about bell housing ,you couldnt fit lt77 one on a sereies box

I was just pointing out the difference in lengths of the Disco box versus Defender box to the OP ....

Yes the disco box will fit (sort of ) BUT it'll all be in the wrong place in a series

lordluke1995 · Jul 10, 2012

right so im using the series box i get that, and you say i should just use series bell housing as well ? and just remove a few studs ?
i just read somewhere that there are some bolts that arent for support but actually serve a purpose like for crank seal or something ??

jamesmartin · Jul 10, 2012

you aint no choice with series box and bellhousing fitting ,crank seal will be fine ,some fit bolts but it isnt necessary

lordluke1995 · Jul 10, 2012

right so thats solved that !

in terms of set up with engine mounts, whioch ones should i use ? and secondly do i need some better rubber bushes for the greater vibrations ?
really appreciate the knowledge

jamesmartin · Jul 10, 2012

new ruber mounts decent oe not cheap pattern ,mounts off old engine ,though you may need to modify a little to lift engine a inch plus you need one of these 200tdi discovery engine into land rover 2A exhaust pipe | eBay,you dont need to fit intercooler if you want to keep original rad and front undisturbed

lordluke1995 · Jul 10, 2012

ah right, you see this is why i need the input as i have a 19j in mine atm, well i did have anyway, so i think my mounts should be set up right ? and as for rad i have a 200 one already installed, with regard to the intercooler, should i need it ? will it strain engine more ? or is it just there for performance.

TheKeymeister · Jul 10, 2012

Take 19j flywheel housing off and fit that to the 200tdi, my mate did this in his defender and it worked out ok

The Mad Hat Man · Jul 10, 2012

TheKeymeister said:
Take 19j flywheel housing off and fit that to the 200tdi, my mate did this in his defender and it worked out ok

why? what benefit?

jamesmartin · Jul 10, 2012

it will give some extra performance but wont be necessary as it will give more than enough power,disco turbo can be a bit close to chassis ,i have fitted td turbo to tdi before ,takes a little fettling

lordluke1995 · Jul 10, 2012

i would like to know what benefit too ?

how could i play around with ehaust to use my 19j exhaust set up i already have ?

TheKeymeister · Jul 11, 2012

He did it to save taking studs out I think, as all/more of them fitted properly on the 19j flywheel housing than the 200tdi one so theoretically should be better

The Dude with the 110 · Jul 11, 2012

TheKeymeister said:
Take 19j flywheel housing off and fit that to the 200tdi, my mate did this in his defender and it worked out ok

It bolted up fine (2.5 N/A, not 19J), but it did cover up the hole for the wading plug due to it being on the back of the N/A housing and the 200tdi sump sitting lower. Didn't realise this until after I had the engine in and running lol

TheKeymeister · Jul 11, 2012

There he is the man himself. lol

lordluke1995 · Jul 11, 2012

so what are we saying yes or no to using td housing ? and yes i will be going off road ! and will be using wading plugs where possible

TheKeymeister · Jul 11, 2012

I used 200tdi bellhousing and series gearbox and can't get a wading plug in anyway due to gearbox cross member

lordluke1995 · Jul 11, 2012

ill go for your suggestion with the 19j back plate thing !, as some one keeps going on about the four bolts at the bottom and how important they are ??
one final thing, how would i check if my gear box oil or crank seal is leaking ? bell housing is black and i just hope it was my old 19j

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