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Thinking of swapping my Yeti for a Freelander
Am I mad?
I know very little about the Freelander I must admit but they seem to fit the bill for my needs
They always struck me as being not a real Landy, maybe it was the adverts at launch that portrayed it as a sporty hooligans motor, to my mind anyway
My fears would be rust and lying under it every fortnight with a big hammer and a box of tools
Maybe it's not that bad after all, convince me :)
 
@gratlists some important considerations but there are also many positives.

Freelander parts are generally much lighter than full fat LR parts and are therefore much easier to work with for people of a certain age.

I switched from full fat to Freelander and really enjoy tinkering.
 
If you plan to get a Freelander 1, you have to make allowance for hairdryers and full magazine racks catering to hairdresser weekly.
Seriously though, it's a nice vehicle for general use and with the decent tyres and well service drive unit underneath, capacity to cope with freshly mown grass. 🥴
Parts are still available and quite frankly easy to replace with the odd monkey wrench. Being of a certain vintage you have various engines petrol diesel V6 and handpush🤬🤬🤬
Hopefully uncle Nodge will be able to advise better.
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Thinking of swapping my Yeti for a Freelander
Am I mad?
I know very little about the Freelander I must admit but they seem to fit the bill for my needs
They always struck me as being not a real Landy, maybe it was the adverts at launch that portrayed it as a sporty hooligans motor, to my mind anyway
My fears would be rust and lying under it every fortnight with a big hammer and a box of tools
Maybe it's not that bad after all, convince me :)
Are you meaning Freelander 1 or 2?

What are you wanting from the vehicle? Assuming you meant Freelander 1. The youngest one is 17 years old, so a vehicle of this age will likely need things doing to it.

The Freelander is a jack of all trades. It goes quite well on the road, but still not as well as a car. I don't like the term Hippo, not really sure where it comes from. But it sort of sums up the handling IMO. They don't feel like a 4x4 on the road, not like a live axle 4x4 does. But they do feel a bit squishy, leany and wallowy. But undeniable car like. They certainly aren't bad on the road and maybe my description doesn't flatter. But if you want something sporty and sharp to drive, they are not it. They are however reasonable comfortable and accomplished on tarmac.

Off road is the same mixed bag. In some respects they are quite capable, in others severely lacking. Being all independent suspension they ride rough ground quite well. But they have low ground clearance for a 4x4 and poor departure/approach/breakover angles. The all independent suspension also lacks suspension flex. Meaning wheels in the air a lot. To counter this they have traction control. It is a very good traction control, but it is a Gen 1 version of off road traction control and isn't as quick to react as modern systems.

The traction control does give them ability off road you may not think a crossover SUV should be capable of. And certainly in 1998 they were well ahead of the game compared to any rivals like the Rav4 or Honda CR-V which had no form of traction control at all.

There biggest issue off road is a lack of low range. An automatic gets around this to an extent, but you can't avoid the fact that for some off road situations they are a lot of work to drive or just unsuitable for the terrain. But they can get you further than a lot of vehicles. If it is just a muddy track, wet grass field or a snow covered lane. Then they are in their element.

Early models the TCS and HDC were optional I believe. They are a must if you plan to venture off the beaten path. Latter models have these as standard.

Overall I'd say they are good vehicles, the interior is decent if a little 1990s plastic looking. The seats are a bit hard and not that comfy IMHO. And I have never gelled with the driving position. I think they are designed for a tall gangly person with long legs. I'm short and find I end up with the steering wheel under my chin once I've moved the seat to a position where the clutch pedal is comfortable. Oddly the gearstick is also quite a reach, you have to dip your shoulder to grab it and change gear.

Rear seating space is quite good. Boot ok, although given the overall dimensions and wheelbase you can't help but wonder how a Range Rover of Discovery 1 have such bigger boots compared to the Freelanders fairly small one.

Engine wise, the 1.8 petrol is a lovely engine and works very well with the platform. Just read up on the usual head gasket issues. They shouldn't be a reason to avoid, as they are solvable in most cases and it is a really nice engine.
The early diesel is the 2.0 L Series engine. Another really nice engine, although only offered in low output form in the Freelander. This was replaced with the BMW Td4 engine later on. Arguably the L-Series is the nicer engine, but the Td4 came with quite a bit more power in standard form, so the Td4's do go better.

The V6 is nice, but only comes with an auto box and drinks very heavily as a result.

Rust can be an issue, but should be easy to spot. Plenty of tidy ones still about.


The biggest issue is probably the drivetrain. They use a clever viscous unit to enable 4wd. Which again is arguably better than some latter models. However, if this unit goes stiff (which they do) and is ignored by the owner. It can completely wreck many expensive components. I would avoid any converted to 2wd like the plague. They should have matching tyres all round in similar condition.

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Are you meaning Freelander 1 or 2?

What are you wanting from the vehicle? Assuming you meant Freelander 1. The youngest one is 17 years old, so a vehicle of this age will likely need things doing to it.

The Freelander is a jack of all trades. It goes quite well on the road, but still not as well as a car. I don't like the term Hippo, not really sure where it comes from. But it sort of sums up the handling IMO. They don't feel like a 4x4 on the road, not like a live axle 4x4 does. But they do feel a bit squishy, leany and wallowy. But undeniable car like. They certainly aren't bad on the road and maybe my description doesn't flatter. But if you want something sporty and sharp to drive, they are not it. They are however reasonable comfortable and accomplished on tarmac.

Off road is the same mixed bag. In some respects they are quite capable, in others severely lacking. Being all independent suspension they ride rough ground quite well. But they have low ground clearance for a 4x4 and poor departure/approach/breakover angles. The all independent suspension also lacks suspension flex. Meaning wheels in the air a lot. To counter this they have traction control. It is a very good traction control, but it is a Gen 1 version of off road traction control and isn't as quick to react as modern systems.

The traction control does give them ability off road you may not think a crossover SUV should be capable of. And certainly in 1998 they were well ahead of the game compared to any rivals like the Rav4 or Honda CR-V which had no form of traction control at all.

There biggest issue off road is a lack of low range. An automatic gets around this to an extent, but you can't avoid the fact that for some off road situations they are a lot of work to drive or just unsuitable for the terrain. But they can get you further than a lot of vehicles. If it is just a muddy track, wet grass field or a snow covered lane. Then they are in their element.

Early models the TCS and HDC were optional I believe. They are a must if you plan to venture off the beaten path. Latter models have these as standard.

Overall I'd say they are good vehicles, the interior is decent if a little 1990s plastic looking. The seats are a bit hard and not that comfy IMHO. And I have never gelled with the driving position. I think they are designed for a tall gangly person with long legs. I'm short and find I end up with the steering wheel under my chin once I've moved the seat to a position where the clutch pedal is comfortable. Oddly the gearstick is also quite a reach, you have to dip your shoulder to grab it and change gear.

Rear seating space is quite good. Boot ok, although given the overall dimensions and wheelbase you can't help but wonder how a Range Rover of Discovery 1 have such bigger boots compared to the Freelanders fairly small one.

Engine wise, the 1.8 petrol is a lovely engine and works very well with the platform. Just read up on the usual head gasket issues. They shouldn't be a reason to avoid, as they are solvable in most cases and it is a really nice engine.
The early diesel is the 2.0 L Series engine. Another really nice engine, although only offered in low output form in the Freelander. This was replaced with the BMW Td4 engine later on. Arguably the L-Series is the nicer engine, but the Td4 came with quite a bit more power in standard form, so the Td4's do go better.

The V6 is nice, but only comes with an auto box and drinks very heavily as a result.

Rust can be an issue, but should be easy to spot. Plenty of tidy ones still about.


The biggest issue is probably the drivetrain. They use a clever viscous unit to enable 4wd. Which again is arguably better than some latter models. However, if this unit goes stiff (which they do) and is ignored by the owner. It can completely wreck many expensive components. I would avoid any converted to 2wd like the plague. They should have matching tyres all round in similar condition.

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Excellent review and thank you,
I was thinking of a later one so as to avoid too many rust issues
I usually extend the gearstick anyway as I dont like short stubby shifters
I would prefer diesel although I did have experience with the K series in an Elise sport 160 which was threshed every time out including track days and no problems.
 

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Thinking of swapping my Yeti for a Freelander
Am I mad?
I know very little about the Freelander I must admit but they seem to fit the bill for my needs
They always struck me as being not a real Landy, maybe it was the adverts at launch that portrayed it as a sporty hooligans motor, to my mind anyway
My fears would be rust and lying under it every fortnight with a big hammer and a box of tools
Maybe it's not that bad after all, convince me :)
What Freelander? The Freelander 1 is smaller than the Freelander 2, but it's also much more simple and cheaper to maintain. The Freelander 2 is based on a an emulsion of Ford Mondeo, Volvo XC60 and Land Rover bits. It's much larger than the Freelander 1, almost Discovery 1 sized in fact. The FL2 is also much more advanced, more modern inside and out, faster, better handling, and has better crash resistance being 5 ☆ rated. It's also heavily dependent on electronics, like all modern cars, but reliability is better than a similar age range rover.
No Freelander 1 or 2 rusts as fast as traditional Land Rovers, unless it's been used extensively on salty roads, or used to launch boats into the ocean.

It depends on what you want, and your budget, as good Freelanders are holding their money at the moment.
 
Thinking of swapping my Yeti for a Freelander
Am I mad?
I know very little about the Freelander I must admit but they seem to fit the bill for my needs
They always struck me as being not a real Landy, maybe it was the adverts at launch that portrayed it as a sporty hooligans motor, to my mind anyway
My fears would be rust and lying under it every fortnight with a big hammer and a box of tools
Maybe it's not that bad after all, convince me :)
Never heard anyone say anything bad about Yetis.

If you haven't got a problem, why go looking for one?
 
Never heard anyone say anything bad about Yetis.

If you haven't got a problem, why go looking for one?
Dont like the Yeti
Pedal position doesn't suit me, almost miss brake pedal sometimes as it seems further away and I just about catch it with the tip of my boot
It has turbo lag and you have to rev it a lot to make swift progress
I always bang my head when leaning into the rear doors with shopping etc
Heater not the best, bit complicated for me, keep forgetting where settings are after driving van for instance
Brakes are too sudden, especially with boots on, cant brake gently
Stop start annoying , always forget to turn it off

Having said that, high 40's to gallon around town
Loads of room, back seats are adjustable
High resale value

Just fancied a Freelander
I usually change cars regularly to generate cash.
 
The above is a great desription - subsequent ditties excepted.

I find the driving position fine. I'm just under 6'. However I do feel that the tops of my shins are to close to the underside of the dash. Steering wheel is fine.

Our Freelander often gets used as a 'tour bus' ferrying friends and family on trips round the South Island here in NZ. In that roll it is great. It takes 5 plus luggage in comfort reliably to awesome locations climbing mointain passes (slowly) and navigating twisty roads (that can stretch for 100's of kms very well. It has been an awesome little truck for that.

We can crank up the AC poodle along at 100kmh (on the straighter bits) in confidence it won't let us down and get close to 40mpg.

When we go on holiday we can bung the 100kg tent in the boot, bung all the glamping gear (fridge, bbq, bikes etc) in the boat and lug it, and 4/5 adults over the same terrain and its a breeze.

Ours is now 24 years old. We've had it 12 and its been boringly reliable. Its the L Series diesel.

Awesome little truck.
 
Dont like the Yeti
Pedal position doesn't suit me, almost miss brake pedal sometimes as it seems further away and I just about catch it with the tip of my boot
It has turbo lag and you have to rev it a lot to make swift progress
I always bang my head when leaning into the rear doors with shopping etc
Heater not the best, bit complicated for me, keep forgetting where settings are after driving van for instance
Brakes are too sudden, especially with boots on, cant brake gently
Stop start annoying , always forget to turn it off

Having said that, high 40's to gallon around town
Loads of room, back seats are adjustable
High resale value

Just fancied a Freelander
I usually change cars regularly to generate cash.
Which Freelander though, as the FL1 and FL2 are very different, each with benefits over the other.

I'm not a fan of VW all or nothing turbo management myself. I much prefer the softer boost, low RPM torque of my 2.2L FL2. When going out on errands, I always take my Freelander over the wife's much newer Audi, simply because I prefer driving the Freelander. Nothing gives you the same commanding driving position of a Land Rover, which is something that most other SUVs miss out on. Space wise, a Freelander 2 has more than a Yeti, so doesn't need moving back seats as the boot is larger than a Yeti with the seats forward, but rear legroom is comparible with the Yeti seats backward.
 
Awful lot of car for $2k!

Nice looking. Doesnt say how many miles, but on a 20 year old car, does it really matter!
Judging by old mot's it's not much above 100k
No corrosion alerts on previous mot either
and it's less than a grand
Lift to Soton anyone ?
 
Compared to a Yeti, it'll feel rather slow, and won't do anything like 40+ to the gallon.
But I'll be able to fix it, not as much electronics to worry about and in 3 years time it'll be a classic, if I live another 3 years that is lol
 

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