TCubed · May 27, 2012

Decided to replace all my airbags, after I was popping the boat in the water, had it in high profile and had to listen to an agonizing squeak from the rear offside bag - more of a hole than a leak... Thank heavens it stopped when I popped her down to standard again.
Anyhow, are these the ones I need? And they'll last ~8 years am I right?

Air Springs Set Of 4 **Dunlop** Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order.

Hopefully will do it myself depending on how well I bond with the how-to on here

ovalandrover · May 27, 2012

Yes they are the ones and not to bad to fit as long as you jack up the chassis and support the axle on a jack .Might be a good idea to replace the shocks as well.
Get a fitting kit as well as the clips could be rusty and break when you take them off ,Its surprising how little is holding them in the top one can be fiddly to get back in but doable if you take the splash guards off the front and make up a hook to pull rear top out.you might find it hard to to get the pipes out but get a copy of RAVE and study that, Once you have done one it will be easy to do the others.

TCubed · May 27, 2012

Those?
Front Shock Absorbers (Pair) STC3672 Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order.
Rear Shock Absorbers (Pair) STC3671 Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order.

How long do they last? Any observable signs to see if they need changing? Or is it that you have to remove the bag first, so you only get this one chance?

Datatek · May 27, 2012

IMO Arnott Gen 2's are better than the Dunlops, they have a lifetime warranty and not a lot more expensive. P38 spares do them on Ebay. I can send you a guide to replacing the airbags with photos, PM me with an email address if you want it. Also a good idea to have the EAS software or a kicker available in case it throws a wobbly after you have been jacking it up.

TCubed · May 27, 2012

I can only find them here?
Arnott Range Rover P38 Suspension Air Springs / Bags X4 | eBay
They seem quite a bit more expensive, is there a cheaper place to look? When you say a lifetime warranty, does that mean they just don't wear out, or when they do in 8 years or whenever it is you get free replacements?
I'd love a guide, I'll PM you

I have the EAS software.

TCubed · May 27, 2012

Errm right, I've read the Arnott Gen II and III pages, and although they do sound better than the Dunlops, as of yet I can only find them for at least 50% of 100% more the price of the Dunlops, so unless anyone has any other sites...?
Would I be right in thinking that the Dunlops would last at least 6 years? Also, are Dunlops what I have currently (which I presume are the originals, but may be the car's second set)?

Saint.V8 · May 27, 2012

Dunlops were the OEM.

The Arnott guarantee is only for defects not wear and tear!!

TCubed · May 28, 2012

Guide received Data - Thank you!

Mini Simon · May 28, 2012

Datatek, as I am here to learn, and it's a job I may be doing myself in the not too distant future, in what way are the arnott units better? Are they a better ride or is it down to build quality?

Datatek · May 28, 2012

Mini Simon said:
Datatek, as I am here to learn, and it's a job I may be doing myself in the not too distant future, in what way are the arnott units better? Are they a better ride or is it down to build quality?

IMO the Arnotts give a slightly better ride, I think the consruction is better and they have a lifetime warranty against defects

Mini Simon · May 28, 2012

Datatek said:
IMO the Arnotts give a slightly better ride, I think the consruction is better and they have a lifetime warranty against defects

Can't say fairer than that.

Cheers

zzr1200 · May 28, 2012

OEM Dunlop Airbags, also remember to buy new airbag retaining clips as well and personally I'd buy these if shockers are on the shopping list, OEM Front Boge Shockers and OEM Rear Boge Shockers

TCubed · May 28, 2012

zzr1200 said:
OEM Dunlop Airbags, also remember to buy new airbag retaining clips as well and personally I'd buy these if shockers are on the shopping list, OEM Front Boge Shockers and OEM Rear Boge Shockers

Are these likely to break on removal?

Also Data, have you got an idea of how long replacement of all 4 bags would take (assuming nothing goes wrong)?

bigsmellydaddy · May 28, 2012

I took 4 hours to do 4 bags first time, front off side is a bugger, I used the hollow jack handle to pop off the top clips, having pulled out the wheel arch liner and chocked it with a small piece of wood. Front base pins are held on by a small bolt which is a bugger if you hadn't noticed it ! Follow Data's guide and you wont go wrong.

donp38 · May 28, 2012

I fitted Arnotts II last year. all four.
I discussed thei p38 spare aguy on ebay and think they cost me 268 delivered.
the warrentee is simple. If they fail, you take a photo and get a replacement in the post.

zzr1200 · May 28, 2012

TCubed said:
Are these likely to break on removal?

Theres a good chance the clips will be siezed into the alloy airbag mounts (if alloy spring caps), rusted or they could get bent/broken while removing them, for the small extra cost it saves a lot of grief to fit new clips.

TCubed said:
Also Data, have you got an idea of how long replacement of all 4 bags would take (assuming nothing goes wrong)?

This all depends on the amount of equipment that you have available and your mechanical capabilities.

I have all the equipment, with alloy spring caps it took me 2 1/2 hours to change all 4 on mine and I'm a commercial mechanic by trade.

TCubed · May 28, 2012

This all depends on the amount of equipment that you have available and your mechanical capabilities.

I have all the equipment, with alloy spring caps it took me 2 1/2 hours to change all 4 on mine and I'm a commercial mechanic by trade.

As in jacks, chocks and spanners? I'll anticipate somewhere about 4 hours then.

Datatek · May 29, 2012

TCubed said:
Are these likely to break on removal?

Also Data, have you got an idea of how long replacement of all 4 bags would take (assuming nothing goes wrong)?

If the end caps on the old airbags are alloy, allow a day as the rears corrode into the housing and can be a bugger to remove. Plastic ones on can be done in 20 minutes a corner. No need to remove the wheel arch liners at the front on the diesel

TCubed · May 29, 2012

What is this?
Air Spring Fitting Kit Front Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order.

Do I need it?

Saint.V8 · May 29, 2012

TCubed said:
What is this?
Air Spring Fitting Kit Front Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order.

Do I need it?

Yes....

Depending on how corroded in your originals are, you may need replacement clips if you break them (which is easily done)

For the sake of another £8, it is best to have them and not need them, then need them and not have them....

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