110woman said:
so I can cross a river, stream, ford that's twice as deep and flowing but I have to stop for a big puddle ...... why enforceable ?
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Because if it is visible yet you fail to see it or decide to ignore it then it's an easy undue care and attention rap. If you went through and your bow wave caused water to enter a property and this was video'd or there were witnesses then you could also be done for criminal damage and could be persued for the cost of any repairs.
 
ratty said:
Because if it is visible yet you fail to see it or decide to ignore it then it's an easy undue care and attention rap. If you went through and your bow wave caused water to enter a property and this was video'd or there were witnesses then you could also be done for criminal damage and could be persued for the cost of any repairs.
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ok ok...but tis frustrating though .

Its under a railway bridge at the bottom of two hills...not a property for miles and a long windy slow road as a detour .:(

might try it late in the evening when no mr policeman will be about to do me for it :(
 
110woman said:
ok ok...but tis frustrating though .

Its under a railway bridge at the bottom of two hills...not a property for miles and a long windy slow road as a detour .:(

might try it late in the evening when no mr policeman will be about to do me for it :(
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On way to the hospital yest I went round the road block and there was a farmer ther. I had a chat with him and he reckoned it was 4ft n he would take his fender through it. So I left it well alone as I was in the range

But coming back about 9pm I went that way again just to have a nosie and there was no water atall, but even going slow the I skidded under the bridge as ther was so much silt and crap left on the road. Very very slippy
 
Deasy said:
On way to the hospital yest I went round the road block and there was a farmer ther. I had a chat with him and he reckoned it was 4ft n he would take his fender through it. So I left it well alone as I was in the range

But coming back about 9pm I went that way again just to have a nosie and there was no water atall, but even going slow the I skidded under the bridge as ther was so much silt and crap left on the road. Very very slippy
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It's just down the road from me and it does my head in every time it rains! The detour is friggin miles out of my way. In this day of modern technology you'd think they could sort it out - maybe by putting in some decent drains:rolleyes:
 
going back to fannys mondeo , if its been in deep water and got wet inside tis probably better to scrap it and buy another banger.... theres pleanty about for hundreds. especially if you aint fussy on make and model. depends how you value your time, and what other water damage comes to light in the next few months. only time ive been through bonnet depth floods in an escort.. in tweve months all the wheel bearings went, head light reflectors rusted out and it took a lot of time to dry out the interior.... and that was clean river water
 
ratty said:
Because if it is visible yet you fail to see it or decide to ignore it then it's an easy undue care and attention rap. If you went through and your bow wave caused water to enter a property and this was video'd or there were witnesses then you could also be done for criminal damage and could be persued for the cost of any repairs.
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I'm fairly sure it's not enforceable and you can drive round it. What you cannot do is move it, or cones out the way to get past.
 
fanatic said:
It's a TCDI- allegedly AA started it and it ran briefly, stopped and wouldn't go after-I know very little more about the car recently other than I service it normally.

Either it will get fixed or written off and if worth doing fixed
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Insurance will pay out for it, I had a customer who took her SLK thorugh a deep puddle and snapped a con rod, insurance paid out £7K for a new engine...
 
I've just seen a £15k Merc get written off by the insurer following flood damage. Not a happy owner.
 
Sii said:
I'm fairly sure it's not enforceable and you can drive round it. What you cannot do is move it, or cones out the way to get past.
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I am fairly sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

"Road can be closed by police or local authority emergency powers under RTRA84 for up to 7 days. No obligation to sign a diversion route. Closure legally enforceable."

"Thereafter, road can be closed for up to 6 months (extendable if necessary) under a different section of the RTRA84, by a Temporary Traffic Regulation Order, made buy the Local Authority. Diversion route should be signed if available, but no obligation - closure still enforceable."

"Contravention of a Road Closure Order under S5 RTRA 84 = £1000 fine no points."
 
ooohhh - Ok then Deasy- the fine is one thousand of our British Pounds for doing what you did the other night. How about I don't dob you in to the police for the bargin sum of one hundred pounds :D
 
110woman said:
ooohhh - Ok then Deasy- the fine is one thousand of our British Pounds for doing what you did the other night. How about I don't dob you in to the police for the bargin sum of one hundred pounds :D
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mmmm,110,i wonder what the fine is for BLACKMAIL.:eek::eek::eek::D
 
ER1C said:
I am fairly sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

"Road can be closed by police or local authority emergency powers under RTRA84 for up to 7 days. No obligation to sign a diversion route. Closure legally enforceable."

"Thereafter, road can be closed for up to 6 months (extendable if necessary) under a different section of the RTRA84, by a Temporary Traffic Regulation Order, made buy the Local Authority. Diversion route should be signed if available, but no obligation - closure still enforceable."

"Contravention of a Road Closure Order under S5 RTRA 84 = £1000 fine no points."
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I can't quote traffic regulations off the top of my head but it was something I come across on a LANTRA traffic management course that if we were setting out road closed signs you needed to barrier it in some form as well as the sign by itself wasn't enforceable (a couple of cones can be sufficient with the sign to cover the road)
 
gemsdad said:
mmmm,110,i wonder what the fine is for BLACKMAIL.:eek::eek::eek::D
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I prefer to think of it as a form of behaviour modification programme.

I am helping Deasy learn to be a better citizen and not break the law and in order to do that I am using operant conditioning and establishing punishment as a concept ,to then allow for negative reinforcement which leads to deasy becoming a law abiding member of society :p:D
 
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110woman said:
ok ok...but tis frustrating though .

Its under a railway bridge at the bottom of two hills...not a property for miles and a long windy slow road as a detour .:(

might try it late in the evening when no mr policeman will be about to do me for it :(
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110woman said:
I prefer to think of it as a form of behaviour modification programme.

I am helping Deasy learn to be a better citizen and not break the law and in order to do that I am using operant conditioning and establishing punishment as a concept ,to then allow for negative reinforcement which leads to deasy becoming a law abiding member of society :p:D
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Any 'obstacle' or hazard has to be checked prior to chancing yer motor in it.
Unless you know what's under the water / mud tis dodgy and sometimes dangerous, as Deasys slippery encounter says even experienced bods can be surprised ...

If a policeman is there you can ask if you can go thru, if he says yes, then it's down to you if you want to chance it. :cool:
 
Dippypud said:
:cool:



Any 'obstacle' or hazard has to be checked prior to chancing yer motor in it.
Unless you know what's under the water / mud tis dodgy and sometimes dangerous, as Deasys slippery encounter says even experienced bods can be surprised ...

If a policeman is there you can ask if you can go thru, if he says yes, then it's down to you if you want to chance it. :cool:
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Also bear in mind that manhole covers can be forced off during flooding when drains are overflowing. I wouldn't want to drop a wheel into one of those at any speed.
 
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As someone that works on the highways for the waterboard. If we close a road its not enforcable,same with temporary traffic lights. Talking with one of the highways instpectors for the council he said unless the police close a road and have A man'd road block its not enforcable.
 
110woman said:
ooohhh - Ok then Deasy- the fine is one thousand of our British Pounds for doing what you did the other night. How about I don't dob you in to the police for the bargin sum of one hundred pounds :D
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You'd be bloody lucky to find any old bill to grass him up to in weather like this - way too wet :rolleyes:
 
HiDeeHi said:
You'd be bloody lucky to find any old bill to grass him up to in weather like this - way too wet :rolleyes:
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Shhhh... he'll still be sleep deprived from the birth etc .... he may fall for it still and pay up anyway :D
 
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