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Kirstygoose

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Hi guys/gals. I have a problem...here's what happened (sorry if this turns into a story!!)
Ok..last week (Thursday) I'm driving my freelander 1 whilst working, it shudders the red engine warning light comes on I chuck hazards on and come to a stop the car cuts out. Call the hubby, says 'sounds like you've run it out of diesel (with a few obscenities thrown in!) he gets fuel meets me puts the fuel in bleed it through etc...no joy! Remember I have break down cover...find out it's on hubby's car! So get break down cove have to wait 24hrs! Call them out after 24hr 1min, man gets there tries starting doing same things as hubby as well as plying my car with 'easy start' which started then cut out again. Tells me it's in-tank fuel pump gone, gets car to my home. Today hubby and cousin change said fuel pump, bleed it (oh I took battery off last night and had it sat on charge over night) reconnect battery car won't start, try jumping still won't start, try locking thingy (forward x amount back x amount) car starts runs for 15-20 (the joy I gave!!!) short lived it cuts out! Now won't start at all! Turns over but won't fire up! Put on a new battery and tried...no luck! Checked and there is no power getting to the fuel pump on engine?? Can anyone help PLEASE! I need my car! :( thanks in advance (more so for reading my story!!)
 
hi

what year , model etc it is please

u say u havent got power to the fuel pump, have u checked the fuses first , as the fuel pump may have blown and consequently blown a fuse
 
Presumably this isn't a pre 2000 L Series as the pump is belt driven. So presumably a TD4.

How did you check that no "power" is getting to the pump? Was it just not running? Not sure how the ECU works on the TD4, but its possible the fuel filter is blocked so the pump has no fuel and has been turned off. Did you change the filter? You should do.

These types of problems are 95% of the time pump or filter related. The remaining 5% can be complex to resolve and relate to sensors. If you've changed the filter and checked fuses for the pump, I'd get a (mobile!) garage to read any errors codes off the ECU.

You haven't given your location, you might even find a local LZ (International Rescue) member with a code reader - who can plug it in for a few beers.

Good luck.
 
GrumpyGel said:
Presumably this isn't a pre 2000 L Series as the pump is belt driven. So presumably a TD4.

How did you check that no "power" is getting to the pump? Was it just not running? Not sure how the ECU works on the TD4, but its possible the fuel filter is blocked so the pump has no fuel and has been turned off. Did you change the filter? You should do.

These types of problems are 95% of the time pump or filter related. The remaining 5% can be complex to resolve and relate to sensors. If you've changed the filter and checked fuses for the pump, I'd get a (mobile!) garage to read any errors codes off the ECU.

You haven't given your location, you might even find a local LZ (International Rescue) member with a code reader - who can plug it in for a few beers.

Good luck.
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didnt realise myself the L series was belt driven, learnt something myself , ive got a td4 and is good fun changing the pump and filter hidden away in the wheel arch
 
Well I was "talking in the dark" about the TD4 pump - but reading all the stories on here about the German engineers/designers and their love of sensors, it wouldn't surprise me if they turn the pump off if it hasn't got pressure from the lift pump due to a clogged filter. Or possibly turn both pumps off if the filter's blocked and causing a pressure build up from the lift pump.
 
GrumpyGel said:
Well I was "talking in the dark" about the TD4 pump - but reading all the stories on here about the German engineers/designers and their love of sensors, it wouldn't surprise me if they turn the pump off if it hasn't got pressure from the lift pump due to a clogged filter. Or possibly turn both pumps off if the filter's blocked and causing a pressure build up from the lift pump.
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hi

quiet agree with what ur saying in regards to sensors , on my td4 the electric fuel pump and filter are tucked away behind the rear drivers side wheel arch, so gets rid of the lift pump

now that brings memories back on the old lift pumps, lol

have known in the past of a fuel pump failing and blowing the fuse , when u turn the ignition on should be able to hear it starting up

maybe with running out of diesel it could have dragged up alot of junk and as u say blocked the filter

when i done mine replaced the pair as a matter of course

as we all know can be an endless list due to the amount of electronics and how it was running before it stopped , time will tell,

gary
 
I would go for the fuel pump and change filter as well .also if it is a td4 they are self bleeding so no need to do it.
 
find this

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tap it (hardish) with a spanner or something. Well known issue on the Td4 engine. Mine went and did exactly as your describing.

dead easy to replace.
 
know what u mean , was a pig in getting the pump and filter out of its holder

whilst it was out cleaned all the junk off the tray and painted it with hammerite

was good fun trying to get the pins out of the inner arch

stupid design thats for sure
 
I had a very similar problem, the cable that plugs into the in bonnet fuel pump came loose, ( the plastic mount that the filter and pump sits on come loose and everything dropped about 4 inches) I plugged it back in and it started for a few mins, found the actual wire the goes in the connector pulled out, I got new connector from scrappy, solders wired together and no problems since! ( other than evernow and then have to push connector back on(needs new pump soon) ) hope this helps!
 
True, I read "Checked and there is no power getting to the fuel pump on engine??" As fuel pump IN engine ...
 
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