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hi @neilly has done an excellent D2 buyers guide

may i ask was the quotes manual / diesel , auto, manual
 
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Really should carry that pick axe and shovel for such eventualities.[/QUOTE]

A chainsaw would take away that problem....might cause a few more in the process though:p

Edit: I need to remember to quote properly @dieseldog69
 
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hi @neilly has done an excellent D2 buyers guide

may i ask was the quotes manual / diesel , auto, manual

Aha...that's who it was....I saw that the other day :D

The quote for the hippo was td4 manual, as the 1.8 petrol was a lot more expensive.

The D2 was both auto and manual TD5 as the quote came back at the same price
 
So far I’ve done several trips laning up in Yorkshire and Northumberland, next up is Wales which is going to be the most technical I’ve done. All have been organised tours, have done a couple of lanes with a mate but not much. Probably should explore locally really, I’m in Essex but like to use it as a way of exploring the prettier parts of the country! You could consider something like a jimny, as amusing as they look they are really capable.

Ah nice....travelled around a bit then!

I have just looked at a Jimny....only just over £1k to insure....that is definitely something else for me to consider....and I could use that for a year or two whilst saving for a decent landy and building my ncb! Cheers :)
 
I’ll give you some advice I’m 22 so understand the difficulties with insuring a Land Rover at a young age. Series and defenders are very expensive to insure although you might save money on tax with tax Exempt examples but due to their complete lack of anything safety related they are costly to insure. Also due to their popularity by thieves in recent years this also makes them expensive. Most insurers won’t give you a proper classic insurance policy until you’re 24/25 years old.

The first Land Rover I could afford to drive was a discovery 2 td5. Buy a pre 2001 model as you get the cheaper tax bracket. I’ve had mine for a year and although it’s needed maintenance it didn’t all come in one go and bankrupt me. It’s a very nice vehicle to drive on and off-road, I was lucky to get 1999 model top spec es for £950. It did however need welding.


With any Land Rover you’ll need to learn to weld you cannot run a Land Rover on a budget without this skill. All I did was buy a cheap gas and gas less mig welder, mine was made by wolf weld. Get any scrap steel and practise welding, you have to actually do it to learn it. You can probably get all the kit for under £300.

Lastly remember that It’s a big heavy old 4x4. It’s not quick in any way, they don’t handle amazingly but they are great fun. Very comfortable and very capable off-road the traction control works very well and pre 2001 have a centre diff but no lever to lock it. Get out and try some and see if you like it. Otherwise get a cheap crap box car and get a years no claims and the insurance will be cheaper.

Cheers for all the advice there!

Well....Sounds like learning to weld is a priority then:p
 
One of the problems I have heard about with the FL1 is that some owners remove the rear propshaft and throw it away, effectively turning it into a front wheel drive vehicle, in which case you might just as well get a Mini. Why people do that, I don't know. Maybe a problem with the VCU or the IRD. Maybe it's in the misguided assumption that it will return an improved MPG.
Who knows?
The K-Series engine can overheat and throw out its coolant if it isn't really looked after.

I saw a support question about this, someone twerp removed their prop on a V6 FL1 and it was unsafe due to FL1 not being designed to run in front drive mode.

They were told in no uncertain terms to refit the prop as it was there for a reason.

1.8 K is fine if maintained properly as designed not as beancountered by Rover group.
 
£127 delivered o_O

Freelander section on ere has loads of good info on them.



It wasn't the mirror so much as watching the telegraph pole through the alpine light as I inched past it with three burly blokes hanging off the opposing corner to stop me stoving the roof and glass in :eek:

Really should carry that pick axe and shovel for such eventualities.

On steep side slopes my anti roll bars lock up to keep it stable
 
Lastly remember that It’s a big heavy old 4x4. It’s not quick in any way,

See Dynachip, mine is sub 10 second 0-60

they don’t handle amazingly but they are great fun.

Better than a few car cars, just place it in smoothly and you can hassle the sporty driven cars.

Very comfortable and very capable off-road the traction control works very well and pre 2001 have a centre diff but no lever to lock it.

Late can also have diff lock, mine came complete with FF CDL and lever. CDL is very good. More comfy than a Defender.
 
On steep side slopes my anti roll bars lock up to keep it stable

No lack of stability, just a bloody telegraph pole in the way.

ARBs hinder axle articulation by their very nature, no problem to have one fighting your suspension when you've got TC but I would rather my wheels tried to get to terrafirma to gain traction, once we've got transverse locks we're golden.
 
No lack of stability, just a bloody telegraph pole in the way.

ARBs hinder axle articulation by their very nature, no problem to have one fighting your suspension when you've got TC but I would rather my wheels tried to get to terrafirma to gain traction, once we've got transverse locks we're golden.

Mine don't, one of the clever tricks on D2, they lock on side slopes and disengage on very rough terrain
 
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Mine don't, one of the clever tricks on D2, they lock on side slopes and disengage on very rough terrain

Better post some pictures, seems there are thousands of us who seem to have the wrong idea about D2 ARBs, only ones with any difference are ACE equipped vehicles as far as I am aware, not exactly a locking or unlocking function.

ARBs do assist a little on side slopes as they attempt to maintain body levelling relative to the axle, wouldn't have helped in my skirmish with said telegraph pole as there was a hole that you suddenly dropped into right next the pole.
 
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Better post some pictures, seems there are thousands of us who seem to have the wrong idea about D2 ARBs, only ones with any difference are ACE equipped vehicles as far as I am aware, not exactly a locking or unlocking function.

ARBs do assist a little on side slopes as they attempt to maintain body levelling relative to the axle, wouldn't have helped in my skirmish with said telegraph pole as there was a hole that you suddenly dropped into right next the pole.

i also wondered about that and arb bushes , been reading up on mine and it’s saying if i turn the DSC system off the air cross over control valves make the suspension act like a live beam axle so struts push down one side and the other goes up along with trying to keep the body level as possible

alas will be interesting to see how it reacts but reading ur post has certainally made me read up more how different systems work

 
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