Which Alternative 4x4

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The Toyota Landcruiser 4.5 straight 6 or V8......Absolutely superb machines, and almost unbreakable....with the expected Toyota reliability!.....Now why do I buy Range Rovers??...coz I love em, they are classy and very British....unreliable, a pain in the arse most of the time....but nothing compares to the feeling of driving one !
 
Datatek said:
60MPH on corrugated laterite roads is just plain stupid, it would break pretty much anything. I've run on those kind of roads in West Africa, had a macpherson come out through the bonnet on a Cortina:eek:
That G Waggon looks like what LR should do with the Defender, it's even got 3 proper diff locks.
1200 units for the Aussi army is something LR can forget ever emulating with the new Defender.
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Well you must have not have been on too many corrugated roads

They are more comfortable for the car and you at 60mph

Over here we always drive along corrugated roads at 60 to 70 mph. Also because they are some of the only roads in the outback and are a thousand miles long so take a bit of time to travel them at 20mph

Also would rattle the car to bits at 20mph

As you tend to float across the top of the corrigations it is normal on bad ones to run with the car in diff lock in high range. This gives the car better control and grip on the track. And also means you don't have to use so many revs and there fore less fuel.

When my brother came over he was driving my 110 when we came to the end of a Tarmac road and he slowed down to 20mph and I told him to out his foot down again and get back up to 60mph or in our world 100kph. We still had 120 miles to go to the camp site
 
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reads90 said:
Well you must have not have been on too many corrugated roads

They are more comfortable for the car and you at 60mph

Over here we always drive along corrugated roads at 60 to 70 mph. Also because they are some of the only roads in the outback and are a thousand miles long so take a bit of time to travel them at 20mph

Also would rattle the car to bits at 20mph

As you tend to float across the top of the corrigations it is normal on bad ones to run with the car in diff lock in high range. This gives the car better control and grip on the track. And also means you don't have to use so many revs and there fore less fuel.

When my brother came over he was driving my 110 when we came to the end of a Tarmac road and he slowed down to 20mph and I told him to out his foot down again and get back up to 60mph or in our world 100kph. We still had 120 miles to go to the camp site
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Maybe in a big Holden, sure as hell you would not have wanted to do the run from Accra to Dahomey (now Benin) at anything like 60mph after the rains in a VW combi. Not only were there corrugations but holes that would lose a Hippo:eek: at 60mph you would be in the hole before you could stop:rolleyes:
 
Datatek said:
Maybe in a big Holden, sure as hell you would not have wanted to do the run from Accra to Dahomey (now Benin) at anything like 60mph after the rains in a VW combi. Not only were there corrugations but holes that would lose a Hippo:eek: at 60mph you would be in the hole before you could stop:rolleyes:
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Yeah know what you mean I hit one at 60mph in my 90 saw it too late and launched the car 6 foot in the air with lucky no damage

And would not take a holden out there if it was the last car. The corrigations and a lot of roads out there should only be done in a 4x4
 
sas1810 said:
hi folks!

just out of interest, if you had the choice, and EVER got fed up with RR, what would you go for?

i have tried to include what i think are decent 4x4's for around 5k.

just for fun, you can bash any choice as you wish :)

Dave
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I have had a few 4x4s, First I had a Honda Horizon (Isuzu Trooper import) kept for 4 yrs never a minutes trouble in 293k, sold it got a Disco 2.5, got rid after 3 wks, dealer gave money back fault list too long. Bought a Nissan Xtrail 2 ltr bland to drive and cracked its head, dealer repaired after a legal fight, sold this soon as fixed, bought a Jeep Cherokee 4 ltr Limited, while x trail off road, nice car too cramped, pex'd this and Xtrail for my current P38.
Of choice Honda Horizon for go anywhere and reliability, P38 for roominess and comfort.
 
Ive a 95 trooper import , they call it the bighorn in japan. never heard of the isuzu badged as a honda- what year car was it?

I have to say, in the 10 months Ive had the trooper I serviced it and used it daily as well as some serious off road abuse laning and its never let me down or gone wrong. they are so bloody tough even if a little slow. in the same period in my four door rrc I had umpteen faults and spend a grand on a new autobox and had something to fix every weekend.
 
fett said:
Ive a 95 trooper import , they call it the bighorn in japan. never heard of the isuzu badged as a honda- what year car was it?

I have to say, in the 10 months Ive had the trooper I serviced it and used it daily as well as some serious off road abuse laning and its never let me down or gone wrong. they are so bloody tough even if a little slow. in the same period in my four door rrc I had umpteen faults and spend a grand on a new autobox and had something to fix every weekend.
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I think that there might be a medical term for that sort of obsessive behaviour.

G~
 
fett said:
Ive a 95 trooper import , they call it the bighorn in japan. never heard of the isuzu badged as a honda- what year car was it?

I have to say, in the 10 months Ive had the trooper I serviced it and used it daily as well as some serious off road abuse laning and its never let me down or gone wrong. they are so bloody tough even if a little slow. in the same period in my four door rrc I had umpteen faults and spend a grand on a new autobox and had something to fix every weekend.
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I can say exactly the same about my P38, ~14 months and 20K+ trouble free miles so far including a couple of excursions off road at Essex off road (tough course - not green laning!). I'm going to change the front airbags and dampers at the next service as a matter of course as they've done 130K+ miles but they're not leaking. Only problems I've had so far was a weeping coolant hose because it used the old crappy cheap o/e clips and the usual replacement blend motors. My classic was always carrying niggly problems (but was reliable) the P38 has been fantastic - It'll probably go bang now I've said that! :doh:
 
I'm lucky enough to not be constrained by finances (within reason!) I choose to drive a P38 because that's the car I actually want to own!
 
fett said:
petrols nice and cheap in Venezuela :D
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:D:D:D:D thats about the only good thing about driving here :D:D:D:D

costs about £1.75 to fill a RR here. LPG is free! :p:p:p

BUT! if you are fortunate to own a 4x4, you are more at risk of kidnapping and held to ransom because of it. and if you think a 2009 RR here is approx £170,000.00, (YES, ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND!), you can see why.

it is the only country i know to where you can buy a new car 1 day, wait a week for the papers, and then sell it for more than you paid for it a week later. thats why they stopped the importation of vehicles from overseas as you can make a lot of money. newest 4x4 you will find is 2008, other than jeep which is made here.
 
fett said:
why so expensive, hmm free lpg its almost worth it :D
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import duty. it is at approx 300% ATM. that is if you can get through the red tape, paying under the table, arranging documents, paying the customs guys, paying a lawer, paying............. you get the idea :D.
 
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