dag019
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A wolf rim is 6.5" wide. It is down to specific tyre manufactures what they specify as the rim width for their tyres.
e.g. https://tiresize.com/tires/BFGoodrich/All-Terrain-TA-KO2.htm
"rim range" column
e.g. https://tiresize.com/tires/BFGoodrich/All-Terrain-TA-KO2.htm
"rim range" column
jonathan leason
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Yes what is the biggest tyres you can fit to a series 2 on a wolf wheel with out altering things
I have 235/85 on Wolfs and they work a treat. There's a lot going for 235/85 - there' a lot of choice, the LT specs have huge load ratings, if your are an overlander I'm told they are available everywhere (unlike the wider tyres) because they are the common small truck size. Rolling rad is around 32" on an A/T which sits nice and the width means no loss of steering lock.
I fitted longer studs, shopped around and got them for 0.99p each off e-bay (£20 the lot) and fitted them in-situe using a ball joint splitter to press the old ones out. My S2A has S3 style studs because I drilled the hubs some time ago as the BSF studs were pulling out.
I fitted longer studs, shopped around and got them for 0.99p each off e-bay (£20 the lot) and fitted them in-situe using a ball joint splitter to press the old ones out. My S2A has S3 style studs because I drilled the hubs some time ago as the BSF studs were pulling out.
300bhp/ton
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300bhp/ton
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Already told you. Don’t you read?
255/85R16
A 9.00 x 16 would also fit. But no idea what you are meaning about altering things. Are you referring to the rims or the vehicle?
300bhp/ton
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Not pedantic at all. 235x85 is not a tyre size are tyre sizes written like that. The op will find pretty much bugger all if they are searching Google using that description.
As for 235/85R16’s. Yes I know, there are 4 of them about 15’ from me. And I have another 8 or 10 of them in the barn.
jonathan leason
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I want to fit wolfs or 130 wheels if I can find any .want to fill the wheel arches as much as possible with out tyres rubbing does that explain better
Go for Wolfs and 235/85, they are wider but still fit the arches and steering lock with no adjustments beyond putting the longer studs in which is an easy job. vintage Voltage did a Series last week and fitted Wolfs and 235s so you can see what they look like. The Wolfs are available new for about £50 a pop. I got a used set off e-bay. Interesting that on the TV prog the resto cost £40k, plus the conversion (probably another £40k) and there's a shot where you can clearly see the wheel studs are short. Cheapskates!
dag019
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Wolf and 130 (HD rims) are exactly the same thing the only difference is the wolf ones carry and army price premium.
You can get both tubed and tubless so make sure you know the difference and the different part numbers if you are going second hand. I picked up a set of tubed ones recently that were advertised as tubless. When I point out the visible difference and different part numbers I got a nice discount as I wanted tubed ones to match what I already have but everyone else seems to want tubed so they are more expensive.
300bhp/ton
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Fill the arches in what way? Are you talking from outside/top of the tyre to wheel arch or are you meaning more about a wider track and sticking the wheels outside of the arches width wise, rather than height?
Also what is your planned use? If the suspension goes up and down, then bigger tyres will more likely rub and cause issues. Which you may run the risk of this happening with anything larger than a 235/85R16 or 7.50 x 16
Also what rims are you looking at specifically? Genuine rims or aftermarket? As you can get the aftermarket ones in different rim widths and offsets. Will you be running wheel spacers?
Also consider what engine you have. Bigger tyres will likely reduce performance, make the steering heavier, give you less total steering lock and less effective braking.
Wildefalcon
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Wolf rims and 130 rims take the same tyres, sure, but the wheel well is in a very different place. Only makes a difference if you're fitting disk brakes from Zeus, but worth considering. The wolf rims are more versatile, and cheaper, so go for those.
dag019
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130 rims are the same land rover HD rims used by the military and called wolf. They have the same design and are the same part number.
dag019
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Are you referring to the very rare, expensive, and sort after 1 ton rims as fitted to the series 1tons and the IIB's?
Wildefalcon
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All civvy series rims have the wheel well a lot more inboard than the wolf rims. 2b FC and 1 tonne included. As I learned when I fitted Zeus calipers to my lightweight.
Not sure about 101 rims. But as they are 6 stud, it's probably irrelevant.
Not sure about 101 rims. But as they are 6 stud, it's probably irrelevant.
jonathan leason
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I like the look of just past the arches I looked at on a series 1.some guys that restore landrover and charge a fortune think they where called cool and vintage
300bhp/ton
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Tyres sticking out of the arches in the UK aren't legal, please refer to the Construction & Use Regs on the .gov site. If you want wide wheels sticking out of the arches you'll need to fit some arch flares/spats. Several options open to you, including Defender style flares.
300bhp/ton
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I think you are getting yourself mixed up.
Standard Series and Defender rims are different to each other.
Wolf/130 rims are the same, but different to the above.
One Ton (not a metric tonne
) are different again, which are also different to Series IIb rims. And also the Range Rover/County V8 Rostyle rims, which again are different to all mentioned already. And we have even considered the fact N. American market Series were sold on 15" rims.Wildefalcon
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109 Series and 90/110 Landrover rims are almost dimensionally identical, generally 90/110 welded, series riveted, later 90/110& defender were welded and tubeless.
One ton, tonne, whatever, are deeper. But wheel well in the same space. The
127 Landrover (1983 ish) used similar to deep series, but I think were welded. Wolf rims used later on when wolf defenders were introduced (1994 or so), similar dimensions as the deep 127 and series except the well was moved outboard. Bloody heavy things.
One ton, tonne, whatever, are deeper. But wheel well in the same space. The
127 Landrover (1983 ish) used similar to deep series, but I think were welded. Wolf rims used later on when wolf defenders were introduced (1994 or so), similar dimensions as the deep 127 and series except the well was moved outboard. Bloody heavy things.
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jonathan leason
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Outboard?
Wildefalcon
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Yes, the narrowest part of the rim, the well where the tyre edge goes while it's being fitted, is toward the back of the rim on the series rim, closer to the middle of the Landrover, when fitted.
On the wolf, this well is more toward the front of the rim, outboard.
See below, the front of the rims are at the bottom of the photo. Series on the right, wolf on the left.
On the wolf, this well is more toward the front of the rim, outboard.
See below, the front of the rims are at the bottom of the photo. Series on the right, wolf on the left.
