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Rob Thompson

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I have range rover classic with a 2 inch suspension lift and big tyres.
The tyres are catching on the wheel arches and cutting chunks out of the tyres.
Any ideas?
 
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Rob Thompson said:
I have range rover classic with a 2 inch suspension lift and big tyres.
The tyres are catching on the wheel arches and cutting chunks out of the tyres.
Any ideas?
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Rob Thompson said:
nothing has been cut out of the arches. will it still pass an MOT if the wheels arnt covering the wheels.
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You mean if the arches aren't covering the wheels. Nothing in MOT about tyre protruding beyond bodywork as far as i can see. But it won't pass if tyres are being cut by bodywork. But i am sure protrusion it is not allowed under construction and use regulations and you could get pulled for it by a copper.
 
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I think it is because your tyres are too big for the car :p Or maybe your wheels are the wrong offset? Your tyres dont actually look that big?

Yeah...get the grinder out if you want to keep the tyres
 
Rob Thompson said:
I have range rover classic with a 2 inch suspension lift and big tyres.
The tyres are catching on the wheel arches and cutting chunks out of the tyres.
Any ideas?
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Buy smaller tyres?

wammers said:
Nothing in MOT about tyre protruding beyond bodywork as far as i can see.
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AFAIK that is an MOT failure, tyres need to be within the wheelarches - hence the advent of plastic wheelarch extensions :)
 
MikeV8SE said:
Buy smaller tyres?

I could but the tyres that it came with were nearly new along with all the other mods.



AFAIK that is an MOT failure, tyres need to be within the wheelarches - hence the advent of plastic wheelarch extensions :)
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looks like the only option. £120 from paddocks.
 
MikeV8SE said:
Buy smaller tyres?



AFAIK that is an MOT failure, tyres need to be within the wheelarches - hence the advent of plastic wheelarch extensions :)
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Where does it say that in testers manual? Construction and use regs yes. MOT test guidelines no, as far as i can see.
 
If the wheels are catching on the body/chassis then the answer is wheel spacers. To answer the question of legality a car with wheels protruding from the body will fail an MOT. Construction and use regs apply during MOT and it must meet the requirements of safety. Exposed wheels are considered hazardous to pedestrians.
 
Rob Edge said:
If the wheels are catching on the body/chassis then the answer is wheel spacers. To answer the question of legality a car with wheels protruding from the body will fail an MOT. Construction and use regs apply during MOT and it must meet the requirements of safety. Exposed wheels are considered hazardous to pedestrians.
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Tyre protrusion is simply is not mentioned in MOT test. There is no provision for checking protrusion of tyres. IF there are witness marks on tyres that show they have been striking bodywork yes a fail, otherwise not covered. Construction and use regulations vary according to age of vehicle. No MOT tester could know all the differing regulations for all ages of vehicle. Although some guidelines are included in test manual. But they are not comprehensive. ONLY those items listed on MOT schedual are tested. Tyre protrusion is not mentioned.
 
wammers said:
Tyre protrusion is simply is not mentioned in MOT test. There is no provision for checking protrusion of tyres. IF there are witness marks on tyres that show they have been striking bodywork yes a fail, otherwise not covered. Construction and use regulations vary according to age of vehicle. No MOT tester could know all the differing regulations for all ages of vehicle. Although some guidelines are included in test manual. But they are not comprehensive. ONLY those items listed on MOT schedual are tested. Tyre protrusion is not mentioned.
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The law says the contact patch must be entirely within the arch. If it isn't it's a fail. Ironic as it may seem the wheel itself may protrude but must be 80% covered by the arch. This is why the Caterhams etc now have a front mudgaurd ;)
 
Rob Edge said:
The law says the contact patch must be entirely within the arch. If it isn't it's a fail. Ironic as it may seem the wheel itself may protrude but must be 80% covered by the arch. This is why the Caterhams etc now have a front mudgaurd ;)
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Rob that maywell be but it is NOT included in MOT test.

MOT Testers Manual
 
wammers said:
Rob that maywell be but it is NOT included in MOT test.

MOT Testers Manual
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The pre-requisite for the MOT is the vehicle is presented in a road worthy state. C&U says what is roadworthy and protruding wheels are considered dangerous and the test should be refused so no MOT has taken place. The problem arises when silly or lazy testers fail to consider the pre test condition of a vehicle because nothing must be able to cause harm to pedestrians. Relevant laws:-
Council Directive 78/549/EEC of 12 June 1978 on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the wheel guards of motor vehicles

2.1.2. The rear of the wheel guards must not terminate above a horizontal plane 150 mm above the axis of rotation of the wheels (as measured at the wheel centres) and furthermore the intersection of the edge of the wheel guard with this plane (point A, figure 1) must lie outside the median longitudinal plane of the tyre, or in the case of twin wheels the median longitudinal plane of the outermost tyre.

2.1.3. The contour and location of the wheel guards shall be such that they are as close to the tyre as possible ; and in particular within the part formed by the radial planes referred to in 2.1.1, they shall satisfy the following requirements: 2.1.3.1. the projection - situated in the vertical plane of the tyre axis - of the depth (p) of the outer edge of the wheel guards, measured in the vertical longitudinal plane passing through the centre of the tyre, must be at least 30 mm. This depth (p) may be reduced progressively to zero at the radial planes specified in 2.1.1;


In short, the wheel must NOT protrude more than 30mm past the edge of the mudguard at any point or the test should be refused.
Shamlessly copied :D.
 
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